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Suspicious packages sent to Obamas, Clintons, CNN, Wasserman, Shultz, Soros

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
And now one intercepted addressed to former AG Eric Holder.

Looks politically motivated to me, but you never know. One thing I know it is wrong and I hope they catch the person who sent them soon.

None detonated and there is a lot of speculation if that was by design/intent or just a bad triggering device.

Now, I as most of you are at political opposites of all the intended recipients and I wouldn't wish this on anyone, even them. 
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  • 1hogfan831hogfan83 Member Posts: 347 Member
    Hillary Clinton, "Amateurs, can't even kill someone the right way." 
    "Well he shoulda armed him self" William Munney-Unforgiven"
    "You believe there is one God, that is good, even the demons believe and shudder in fear" James 2:19
  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
    They may have thought it was the last of the russian/arab money.


  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,505 Senior Member
    I just hope it's not some right-wing nut-job that'll make the rest of the party look bad.

    We don't need a lightning rod for the other side to rally around with elections right around the corner.

    I agree with Chief, I hope they catch this guy/girl/group and prosecute. Terrorism, foreign or domestic, is unacceptable.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • GilaGila Posts: 1,830 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    I just hope it's not some right-wing nut-job that'll make the rest of the party look bad.

    We don't need a lightning rod for the other side to rally around with elections right around the corner.

    I agree with Chief, I hope they catch this guy/girl/group and prosecute. Terrorism, foreign or domestic, is unacceptable.
    After past events, it would not surprise me to find out this is misdirection...
    No good deed goes unpunished...
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Look at who they were sent to. They all have administrative staff. None of these people open their own mail... They were never in any danger themselves. It's suspect as hell. 
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,812 Senior Member
    Intelligent folk will reserve judgement until the investigation is done, whereas political hacks will try to use it to get votes.

    It could be a right-wing looney tune, or a left - wing manipulator. I think that there is no way a mainstream voter, of either party would touch anything like this, with a ten foot pole. And, don't forget the Russians and their minions, or the Chinese, for that matter.


  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Okay, if a person was smart enough to do all this would they not realize that none of these people would be anywhere close to the packages ... they have minions to handling the mundane stuff. I would believe a crackpot would send a couple or so to low hanging fruit but the number and level just screams somebody(s) got a package and the rest are claiming they did too.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,626 Senior Member
    No offense to anyone here, but I could give a rat's ass if this is a "right wing lunatic". The lunatic doesn't speak for me any more than any other lunatic speaks for any other group.  Anybody who believes this idiot speaks for the "right wing" is smoking some fine stuff. 
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Based on who got them, possibly a false flag exercise...just a thought because I am naturally cynical.


    My thoughts, exactly.  The timing of this versus the mid-term elections (along with the caravan of conveniently organized asylum seekers) is just way too convenient.  Either a false flag or a straight-up case of planted evidence to generate negative press. 
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    The Dems are already trying to make political hay outta this.

    Now they say Maxine Waters/office got one too.

    It seems almost "Too Perfect" ...............the list of those targeted. Might be some right wing nutcase or some left wing operative.

    Don't think it is an anarchist.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
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  • 104RFAST104RFAST Senior Member Posts: 1,281 Senior Member
    Six-Gun said:
    Jayhawker said:
    Based on who got them, possibly a false flag exercise...just a thought because I am naturally cynical.


    My thoughts, exactly.  The timing of this versus the mid-term elections (along with the caravan of conveniently organized asylum seekers) is just way too convenient.  Either a false flag or a straight-up case of planted evidence to generate negative press. 
    Me 3  The fact that none of them exploded is very telling !! 
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,505 Senior Member
    I hope they figure it out quick. I wanna know who did it and why?
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,757 Senior Member
    Historically, small groups of politically motivated conspirators have exhibited very poor intelligence. It may not be, but could possibly be people that failed to comprehend the backfire results.

    A failure to detonate is not surprising to me. It could easily be unintended.

    If it was leftist conspirators, it appears to me to be more sophisticated than historical incidents that I'm aware of.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,457 Senior Member
    I'm seriously betting it's a false flag op by someone to gain sympathy and votes for the Democrats right before the mid term election. I saw the pic on TV of the 'pipe bomb' they found at one location. From what I could see, that thing had about as much chance of going off as Hillary Clinton has of becoming pregnant. That particular 'bomb' was just something to scare folks, nothing more nor less. And I'd suspect the others were just as inactive.

    The stupidity of the person who built the devices is the stupidity that will get them caught quickly.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,640 Senior Member
    Of all these "bombs" not one of them went off...according to some folks in the know, all of them had the textbook appearance of a "suspicious package", excessive postage, heavily taped, etc...the devices themselves were sloppily constructed, with ill fitted end caps, etc and had all the hallmarks of a device that was never intended to actually work and were clearly assembled by an amateur.

    The timing of this thing and the " targets" are entirely to obvious...

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  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,505 Senior Member
    Not sure if this thread belongs here or in the Political forum but as current news I'm inclined to leave it here as long as no one complains.  

    ...
    I won't complain....

    Might be hard not to politicize it though -- ;)
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Of all these "bombs" not one of them went off...according to some folks in the know, all of them had the textbook appearance of a "suspicious package", excessive postage, heavily taped, etc...the devices themselves were sloppily constructed, with ill fitted end caps, etc and had all the hallmarks of a device that was never intended to actually work and were clearly assembled by an amateur.

    The timing of this thing and the " targets" are entirely to obvious...

    How many were “proactively detonated”? With a little technical knowledge a person could make a device and “pre-detonate” a wire or two so the device would never function but the inspection after a “proactive detonation” would make it appear to have been functional ... unless the lab tech really knew to look for something and the EOD guys didn’t go overboard in the proactive detonation.
    “The further a society drifts from truth ... the more it will hate those who speak it."
    - George Orwell
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,640 Senior Member
    The preferred method for neutralizing  a potential explosive device is with the use of a " disruptor"...a 12 gauge barrel filled with water with a blank in the chamber......it will tear the end cap right off a pipe bomb and tear any firing mechanism apart....leaving enough evidence to figure out how it was made.

    Using explosives to neutralize a device is usually considered a last resort...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,865 Senior Member
    edited October 2018 #21
    I think it's more likely than not that these "bombs" were sent by demonicrat operatives to distract from the caravan or create sympathy votes for the dims. They can't get much more desperate than this.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,757 Senior Member
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    And now one sent to building where a grill owned by Robert De Niro is located.

    They are saying this bomber is a incredibly incompetent amateur or a professional pretending to be an amateur.  
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,301 Senior Member
    Funny to watch how fast the law jumps on this & falls asleep on the management crimes that have already been exposed . Protect & serve is meaning protect the government crooks & serve fake warrants on average people . It is so crazy out there now it is tough to keep up with the latest nut job . The truth is no where to be found ...... that is if someone is really looking or just giving lip service . A 12 yo kid with the internet can build a better bomb than what was sent . Maybe we can get another Warren commission to investigate it & never tell us the truth again .
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    They will catch the jerk(s) pretty soon. So much forensic evidence and cameras everywhere will lead them right to the bomber.  
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,245 Senior Member
    I will predict that in time this will somehow become an embarrassment to the Democrats.
    But not before the midterms, is my bet.

    If not a "sanctioned" false flag then I can see a lefty loon having done it to try and help "their side" in the midterms.

    If all the above is wrong, as many democrats that have called for violence/harassment against Trump Supporters/Conservatives/Republicans, It's not completely out of the realm of possibilities that one of the fringe righty loons did it as a scare tactic to give them a "dose of their own medicine"

    By and large, I'm thinking/hoping it was a loony left

    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,643 Senior Member

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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 22,245 Senior Member
    Above pic "stolen" for posting on FB
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,640 Senior Member
    You can bet Hillary will add this "attempt on her life" to her " being under sniper fire" war story.


    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,640 Senior Member
    Just to clarify...the only difference between a fairy tale and a war story is that one begins with "Once upon a time" and the other begins with " Now this ain't no sxxx"...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
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