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New Remington 700 chasis pistol

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    Barrels are too short. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    Uh, something don’t smell right. 

    :facepalm:


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    Say what?!?


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #5
    cpj said:
    Zee said:
    Barrels are too short. 
    Wait. YOU, of ALL PEOPLE, said the barrel was too short? 
    Or are you thinking bench/hunting gun?
    Yes. 

    12.5” is castrating the .308 Win quite a bit. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    We have 13 & 16 inch Cold 901s. 

    The 13” work ok but I chose a 16”. 

    I’m not saying the pistol won’t work. But, I’d prefer 14” or more. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #7
    But..........I’m still tempted. 

    In the configuration you mentioned. With a brace. 

    I just think think I could build one cheaper. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    I do have to give kudos to Remington for releasing a BA Specialty Pistol again and for crushing Nosler on the price point. 

    MSRP will probably be around $800-$900ish. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,929 Senior Member
    Saw it on G &A TV the other day. Looks interesting. In .223 and .300 BO also. Steep price though.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,755 Senior Member
    It doesn't have the class of the XP100. The bolt on the right is a pain. It should be on the left for a right handed shooter.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    That thing is more Fugly than an AR.

    Those XP100s got it beat aesthetically hands down. It may be more accurate and probably is, I dunno.  
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    I agree they should have consulted actual end users before reaching in the parts bin and cobbling together existing inventory. They would have ended up with a more user friendly product. 

    But hey, when was the last time Remington (or really any manufacturer) ever did that?

    I’m just happy to se bolt action SPs back on the market. 

    When was was the last time Remington offered one outside of the custom shop?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,070 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #13
    Saw the segment about it on G&A TV
    I prefer the mid-grip of my XP.

    I wish someone would make a mid-grip stock for a "left handed" 700 action.

    I've never understood why Rem used what would be a right handed rifle action to make, what for all intents and purposes is, a left handed pistol

    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #14
    Zee said:
    cpj said:
    Zee said:
    Barrels are too short. 
    Wait. YOU, of ALL PEOPLE, said the barrel was too short? 
    Or are you thinking bench/hunting gun?
    Yes. 

    12.5” is castrating the .308 Win quite a bit. 
    Me too. My personal minimum for something as big as a .308 would be about 18. Yeah I know, Ernie shoots elk at 1000 yards with revolvers, but I ain't Ernie (I can't see that far).
    and if I want a flame thrower I'll buy me a flame thrower. I think anything shorter than 16's a waste for any cartridge as big as a .308. With a 12 inch barrel might as well just have a .300 BO.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    I have a 14” and a 15” barreled .308 Win pistols. 

    500yards aren’t a problem. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    What Knitepoet said. Freakin' bolt is on the WRONG SIDE for a right handed shooter. And it costs too much even at $800-$900, and the MSRP is a not gonna fly with me. I could build one with the bolt on the left side; that swapping hands to work the bolt is just stoopid.
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  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,805 Senior Member
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  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,456 Senior Member
    I am glad Remington tried.
    They could have done several things different and made it a better SP.
    Never killed an elk with a revolver at LR...Just saying.
    Barrel length is the main thing.
    They should have introduced it with a left bolt/left port, for the RH shooters.
    Being a lefty, I am fine with the current configuration.
    I have considered getting one, and quickly rebarreling it (plus a brake) and change out the trigger and the grip.
    Mainly because they are the cheapest bolt rig in town.
    On top of that, H-S Precision is completely out of the specialty pistol game.
    Now, only Nosler is making a center-grip SP.

    Zee,
    Why do you like this chassis over some others?
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I have a 14” and a 15” barreled .308 Win pistols. 

    500yards aren’t a problem. 


    OK I put you in Ernie's class, but that ain't me.
    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,456 Senior Member
    snake284 said:
    Zee said:
    I have a 14” and a 15” barreled .308 Win pistols. 

    500yards aren’t a problem. 


    OK I put you in Ernie's class, but that ain't me.
    Zee is in a class all his own.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member

    Zee,
    Why do you like this chassis over some others?

    I prefer the longer Forend with the ability to put rails on top for NV and lasers. I prefer the mag well, trigger guard and “butt” above the grip. 

    Basically, for a chassis, it’s got everything. I would change the grip, though. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    snake284 said:
    Zee said:
    I have a 14” and a 15” barreled .308 Win pistols. 

    500yards aren’t a problem. 


    OK I put you in Ernie's class, but that ain't me.
    Zee is in a class all his own.
    Low Class
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #23
    There is no Question but that several of us could build one for cheaper because we have the skill or the hook-up to do so. 

    Well, those of us that can.......don’t count!!!!

    The fact that a bolt action Specialty Pistol is offered on the general market and not from some stinking high priced custom shop......even with the faults.......guys.......do you not see the WIN in this?!?

    If you don’t see this as a win. Even if temporary. 

    You are NOT a handgun hunter. You are a rifle shooter with no vision.
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    So, how many of you talking crap about this particular Specialty Pistol actually shoot and/or hunt with a Specialty Pistol on a regular basis?

    By my count......2. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    Trying to think, and I will need some help..........how many production model bolt action Specialty pistols have been offered since the 70s?

    Rem XP-100
    Witchataw (sp)
    Savage Striker
    Weatherby whatevermodel
    HS Precision
    Nosler

    The new Remington. 

    To my knowledge, the only ones to see any fan fair have been the XP-100 and possibly the HS Precision. Savage had some after the fact when they became unavailable. 

    So, Remington crapped the bed on several aspects of this build. But, they are the ONLY maker to to really have any success in this field. I gotta give them a little bit of props for trying again. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,070 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #26
    You forgot the one that fits on a 1911 frame
    Dominator wasn't it??
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,070 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #27
    BTW, Checked with HS precision yesterday and they can't (or won't) make a custom center grip for a 700 left handed action.
    Also, while Rem makes a single shot 700 short action, they only make it in a RH configuration.
    I spent quite a bit of time on the phone yesterday, for no "good" results.

    I checked with HSP because they're currently the only company I'm aware of still making center grip XP stocks
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #28
    knitepoet said:
    You forgot the one that fits on a 1911 frame
    Dominator wasn't it??
    I have one. Don’t really consider them a “Bolt Action”. More of a hybrid “Breach Loader” like a howitzer with locking lugs. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,456 Senior Member
    Kimber and Ultra light Arms made some bolt SP's.  There is another company, that I can't think of the name at the moment as well.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    I’m assuming they weren’t successful?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,456 Senior Member
    The ULA and the other brand I can't remember were real good shooters, but you are correct they didn't last.  Blaser made a couple of prototypes as well, but never went into production.  It makes sense why you like the chassis when you consider lasers and NV.  Those items were not in my thoughts when I listed a different chassis.
    Change of grip, longer barrels, and some other chamberings with proper barrel twists would be a huge improvement to me.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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