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168gr ELD-Match performs well!

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 24,051 Senior Member
Went out after pigs last night in my ceaseless quest of terminal performance study. 

Drove up to the recently planted wheat field to see 4 pigs watching me. Parked by the barn as they trotted over the hill. 

Grabbing my gun, I started after them. They were feeding and traveling at the same time in a ground covering pace that made it difficult to catch up to them. With their butts towards me, I had no shot. So, I just kept getting closer. Finally, while feeding along the edge of the field, something spooked them in the brush. Turning, they ran about 50 yards out into the field and stopped broadside. Kneeling down, I picked out a nice sized one and sent a 168gr Hornady ELD-Match bullet from my .308 Win across 98 yards and into his shoulder. Dropping him on the spot. The others ran off the field to be hunted another day. I had work to do. 





Entry was slightly quartering away and behind the shoulder. 





Striking the top of the right lung, it broke two ribs and severed the spine. 







Punching a hole through the off side scapula, the perfectly mushroomed bullet came to rest under the hide. 







Losing only 25 grains, I am duly impressed with the “Match” bullet. Especially after breaking two ribs, severing the spine, shattering the scapula of a 168 pound boar. 



Not bad at all!
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,661 Senior Member
    That is some good weight retention for plowing through all of that, nice shot on the run too.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    Thanks. But, they had stopped when I shot. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,661 Senior Member
    I would think they would stop when you sever the spine :)
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    :rimshot:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,447 Senior Member
    Impressive performance.  Have you compared the ELD-M to the A-Max on similar shots?
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    They perform pretty much identically. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,447 Senior Member
    Interesting.  Not the result I would expect from a Match bullet.  Surprising the results you have with them.  I always find your results posts very descriptive with great pictures to go along.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,928 Senior Member
    RZee said:
    They perform pretty much identically. 
    This makes me feel better about the whole ELD thing...
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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 8,150 Senior Member
    That’s pretty impeccable performance from a bullet “not meant” for what you used it for.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • Great OutdoorsGreat Outdoors Member Posts: 314 Member
    Less than 100 yards and no exit? Surprising
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,936 Senior Member
    Another good bullet for your use.
    Thanks for sharing
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    That bonding really works. Those critters are tough.
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,503 Senior Member
    Less than 100 yards and no exit? Surprising
    That is not surprising to me, on a pig getting close to 200 pounds.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,503 Senior Member
    Excellent work as usual.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #16
    Less than 100 yards and no exit? Surprising
    From my 16” barrel, I’m getting 2,646 fps.

    From a cup/core bullet that plowed through a 1” shield, rib, spine, scapula, and hit another 1” shield, that’s pretty good penetration. 

    The big stopper of bullets on pigs is the off side shield. After a bullet expands fully, it’s hard to get the slowed down, widely blunt object to puncture the hard shield on the off side. 

    I rarely get exits on boars unless using hardcast or I miss the shield. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    That bonding really works. Those critters are tough.
    Not a bonded bullet. It’s a standard cup/core. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    Wow!
    It sure held together good at that speed.
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,101 Senior Member
    Nicely done
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    On a different topic.  Do you eat the pigs heart?  I’ve eaten just about every other pig organ including stomach and intestines, but never the heart...  don’t know why...
    Ate it tonight. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    It’s good. Not as good as deer heart. But, good. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Great OutdoorsGreat Outdoors Member Posts: 314 Member
    Zee said:
    Less than 100 yards and no exit? Surprising
    From my 16” barrel, I’m getting 2,646 fps.

    From a cup/core bullet that plowed through a 1” shield, rib, spine, scapula, and hit another 1” shield, that’s pretty good penetration. 

    The big stopper of bullets on pigs is the off side shield. After a bullet expands fully, it’s hard to get the slowed down, widely blunt object to puncture the hard shield on the off side. 

    I rarely get exits on boars unless using hardcast or I miss the shield. 

    I didn't realize it was a double shield hit, I really enjoy your autopsy threads and usually learn something from every one.

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    Thanks. I learn something new as well most every time. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    edited November 2018 #24
    Jayhawker said:
    RZee said:
    They perform pretty much identically. 
    This makes me feel better about the whole ELD thing...
    The only ELD I’m using currently is the 168gr .30 cal. 

    I’m still well stocked in A-Max for my other cartridges. 

    Though, I will be switching to the 80gr ELD-Match in .224cal now as well since I’m out of A-Max in that caliber. Just gotta work up the loads. 


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    80 grain Amax you say. Huh. 
    Yeah. Some clown gave them to me. 

    Just got done checking sero so my boy can use them to shoot a deer. 



    That’s 3 shots. They work prett well. 😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    Sometimes. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member
    Fascinating.  Better than reading about them in a magazine.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 said:
    Fascinating.  Better than reading about them in a magazine.
    It’s more fun than reading it in a magazine as well. 😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,394 Senior Member
    edited December 2018 #29
    Zee said:
    It’s good. Not as good as deer heart. But, good. 
    Thanks.  Will give it a shot next time.  Google recipe for cuajito, an island dish that’s really good eats.  Will give you another part to try.
    The heart is the only wild pig organ meat I'll eat because it's nothing more than muscle. Down here I won't eat wild pig liver because I've seen too many flukes in liver. Even Deer liver down here can have flukes and other parasites in it. But heart meat, being muscle, is pretty pure and usually very good.


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  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,056 Senior Member
    It’s interesting you recover more bullets on the critters you shoot. I can’t remember the last time I didn’t have a through and through. 

    Great shot placement and bullet performance. 
    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,051 Senior Member
    I enjoy recovering bullets. I learn much. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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