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  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,962 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    You guys crack me up!
    Here's one just for you Zorb.

    Looks good in blue!
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • Squawk BoxSquawk Box New Member Posts: 69 Member
    edited January 2019 #63
    I have fired right through sheet steel with #5 shot, I was very close to the steel when I fired. When I went back to 20 feet or so, it bent the steel, but did not penetrate it.

    And I talked to a guy that was hit with bird shot, pretty close up. I t did not do very much damage, it just made a hole, in his shoulder muscle.

    My vote is for buckshot.
  • das68das68 Posts: 662 Senior Member
    edited January 2019 #64


    And I talked to a guy that was hit with bird shot, pretty close up.
    I t did not do very much damage, it just made a hole, in his shoulder muscle.


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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    edited January 2019 #65
    In my tests conducted with a 12ga 18.5" cylinder bore barrel fired from 12 yards at a perpendicular target of 5/8" laminated plywood. All the shot shell loads tested including 7 1/2 size shot gave complete pass through penetration of all pellets. The only shot shell load that didn't was #8 Winchester AA Xtra Lite Target. With that load some pellets passed through, but most were caught in the last layer of laminate opposite the side of initial penetration. Those could be picked out by hand and may have indeed passed completely through with only a minor variation of the test.

    For anyone interested the Winchester Extra Lite loads are excellent recreational target loads for anyone wanting extra light recoil.
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,962 Senior Member
    Anyone remember these?






    I have no doubt that at -- very close range --  A .410 bore firing 11/16 oz. (301 gr) payload of #4 or even 6 or 7_1/2 shot at 1135 f/s would be effective -- At Close Range -- Coming through the bedroom door close! (3-5 feet)

    Hope you're not using a single shot!


    I would gamble on the #4  through  #7_1/2 over the #12 used by Glaser.

    Once we start talking about yards then my confidence level starts to sink rapidly -- proportional to the distance.

    Obviously, most of us would be using a 12 Gauge!
    But distance is still going to be the main issue.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,642 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    zorba said:
    You guys crack me up!
    Here's one just for you Zorb.

    Looks good in blue!
    How cool is that - that veil is actually just like the "official" veil of the troupe I'm in. Swiped and forwarded!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,962 Senior Member
    And she's Hot!
     :D  :D:D
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    And she's Hot!
     :D  :D:D
    The mouse in the Fez at the table is about to be lunch, though.
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  • horselipshorselips Senior Member Posts: 3,628 Senior Member
    My preferred defensive shotgun load of choice is either #4 Buck or BB shot (whichever was on sale).
  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,119 Senior Member
    Hey!  Stay on topic!  What is your favorite tactical throw-cat?
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,642 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    The mouse in the Fez at the table is about to be lunch, though.
    That's actually a "doumbek" (drum). I wonder what happens when the dancer eats her drummer - uh, never mind.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,962 Senior Member
    Hey!  Stay on topic!  What is your favorite tactical throw-cat?

    Whatever these are, they look good for throwing.
     :D  :D:D
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,119 Senior Member
    Good size for throwing, but you have to aim for the face because they have low yield warheads.
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