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Life's Too Short To Carry An Ugly Gun!

DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior MemberPosts: 3,395 Senior Member

It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
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  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    The sights don't bother me. They are very sharp. On the other hand, on the CZ, sight replacement is a snap and anyone can do it without special tools. A can is an option. Why have a Corvette if you can only drive it 55? Why have  a hundred options on an AR when you're only going to shoot it at the range? Why buy at .44 mag and load it down to .44 Special? Post a photo of the one you're the most excited about? Start the gun porn going... 
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member


    Down the road it will get some upgrades.  That trigger will be one  of  the first to go.
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    Nothing is pointless. There may come a day when cans are legal to purchase just like scopes and red-dots. If so, I'll try one. But I'll have to get one for this gun too... 


    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member

    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    You gonna sew it a holster? One that tucks up under the skirt? 
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    If life's too short for ugly guns, it should be long enough for the inherent beauty of cast iron.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,258 Senior Member
    Phillips head screws to hold the grips on?  Seriously?  I know CZ makes awesome stuff, but that is so incredibly Hi Point of them.  It's G-10 fiberglass, not gypsum board.  Gaaaaaack!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    I didnt want to point out the wrinkle on Dan's prom date. At least it's not loose.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member
    Better phillips than flatheads - 1911 not withstanding!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member
    Doesnt matter if its phillips, flat, torx, or allen.  A screw is a screw when it comes to holding grips on.  I have handled quite a few handguns that were a good bit more expensive than a CZ that used a flat blade screw.  By the screw theory, must be a wood screw holding the grips on...
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,493 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Better phillips than flatheads - 1911 not withstanding!
    Flatheads allow you to tighten or remove the grip screws with a knife blade or even a cartridge rim, if the groove/rim is appropriately sized (that's why JMB specified such screws on his 1911 designs). 

    Overkill is underrated.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,958 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Better phillips than flatheads - 1911 not withstanding!
    (that's why JMB specified such screws on his 1911 designs). 

    No, the phillips head wasnt invented untill  1930 or 32

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,670 Senior Member
    If a handgun could be called pretty, that one would be beautiful. Those grips are amazing.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    If a handgun could be called pretty, that one would be beautiful. Those grips are amazing.
    Finally. A man with taste and refinement. The Glockophiles are jealous... 
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    mitdr774 said:
    Doesnt matter if its phillips, flat, torx, or allen.  A screw is a screw when it comes to holding grips on.  I have handled quite a few handguns that were a good bit more expensive than a CZ that used a flat blade screw.  By the screw theory, must be a wood screw holding the grips on...
    Function wise, correct. Asthetics wise, not correct. 

    Whats worse to look at, a phillips screw or a mangled flat blade screw?  I have had new guns that came from the factory with a buggered up flat blade screw.  It didnt look very good to me.  Didnt feel good in the hand either.
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    mitdr774 said:
    cpj said:
    mitdr774 said:
    Doesnt matter if its phillips, flat, torx, or allen.  A screw is a screw when it comes to holding grips on.  I have handled quite a few handguns that were a good bit more expensive than a CZ that used a flat blade screw.  By the screw theory, must be a wood screw holding the grips on...
    Function wise, correct. Asthetics wise, not correct. 

    Whats worse to look at, a phillips screw or a mangled flat blade screw?  I have had new guns that came from the factory with a buggered up flat blade screw.  It didnt look very good to me.  Didnt feel good in the hand either.
    There are some guys who think even the flat bladed screw slots should be perfectly horizontal when tightened... 
    It's a source of great pride for me, that when my name is googled, one finds book titles and not mug shots. Daniel C. Chamberlain
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member
    Im an electrician, cover plate screws should be either vertical or horizontal depending on device install orientation (opinion and not code).  That being said, I didnt put too much emphasis on grip screws.  I dont see it when its in my hand, and a loose grip either due to a loose screw or a stripped hole is not something I want to deal with.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member
    edited February 2019 #19
    mitdr774 said:
    Im an electrician, cover plate screws should be either vertical or horizontal depending on device install orientation (opinion and not code).  That being said, I didnt put too much emphasis on grip screws.  I dont see it when its in my hand, and a loose grip either due to a loose screw or a stripped hole is not something I want to deal with.
    And should the ground contact be oriented upwards or downwards on standard 110v receptacles? My late father (IBEW Electrician) and I always disagreed on this one, but he said it was up to the individual contractor as to which way he actually installed them.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member
    Install per job spec.  I am IBEW as well.  I install mine in my home with the ground up.  With a plastic cover plate it removes the original reasoning I was told, but it does remove some stress from the hot and neutral contacts depending on the theory you follow.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member
    edited February 2019 #21
    mitdr774 said:
    Install per job spec.  I am IBEW as well.  I install mine in my home with the ground up.  With a plastic cover plate it removes the original reasoning I was told, but it does remove some stress from the hot and neutral contacts depending on the theory you follow.
    That was my dad too - he liked the ground up.
    BUT
    The majority of cords with a 90 degree cap are made for ground down. And I think receptacles look better that way.
    BUT
    More HD cords with a 90 seem to be made for ground up...
    To my observation, anyway.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    If you mangle a slotted screw head you’re a ham fisted idiot who used the wrong screw driver. 
    Same goes for Phillips, Allen, torx, square, etc. 
    Bullsqueeze. If you have never encountered a poorly heat treated screw that chipped, stripped the head no matter the blade type, or snapped the head off a gun screw, then you haven't taken apart and put together enough firearms. And with all the cheap, cheezy, questionable Chinese screws out there, I find your statement to be worthy of a giggle or three.
      I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the answer”
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  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    You’d be surprised by the amount of folks that don’t know that you need the proper screwdriver for gun screws. Using a crappy craftsman screwdriver set won’t cut it. I’ve drilled out and center punch rotated more screws than I care to remember.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    And given the choice, Ill take a stuck or seized straight over the same condition  Phillips. 
    This much is true - Phillips screws are designed to cam out, and strip out all too easy. I like hex heads, Allens, or Torx.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    cpj said:
    And given the choice, Ill take a stuck or seized straight over the same condition  Phillips. 
    This much is true - Phillips screws are designed to cam out, and strip out all too easy. I like hex heads, Allens, or Torx.
    JIS screwdrivers are amazing for Phillips heads, even the non JIS ones.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 23,663 Senior Member
    Not familiar with JIS. Link?
    Maybe I need to buy a couple...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • FFLshooterFFLshooter Member Posts: 1,057 Senior Member
    I’ve yet to master pasting links with my phone but a quick google search will impress you with JIS screwdrivers.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    Maybe life's too short to screw with ugly guns????
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,164 Senior Member
    I’ve yet to master pasting links with my phone but a quick google search will impress you with JIS screwdrivers.

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,164 Senior Member

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    If a screw, be it straight slot, Phillips, torx, or allen head, doesn't want to come out I take a hex head drive screwdriver bit and my 4 oz. brass hammer and give it a couple of swats with the hammer and screwdriver bit. You'd be amazed at how much easier a lot of them come out when you do that.
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