Electric Pickups are inevitable.

TugarTugar Senior MemberPosts: 1,867 Senior Member
Amazon is investing heavily in one of the new startups. Ford is also working on an all electric F150. I am sure Chevy, Ford and *gack* Tesla will be there as well. Usefulness....another matter. 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26357290/rivian-amazon-investment/



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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,917 Senior Member
    Somewhat related, from Popular Mechanics

    "August 2018: Porsche just released some new specs about the upcoming Taycan electric car. As expected the electric sedan will make more than 600 horsepower in total system power and come with 800-volt charging capability, which will give the car enough juice to go 400 km (248 mi) in just 15 minutes of charging. Overall, Porsche proclaims an electric range of 500 km (about 310 mi) and a 0–100 kph time of three and a half seconds.

    Porsche says it has built "three figures" worth of Taycan prototypes altogether."


    My latest popular mechanics stated that Porsche improved the charge time to something like five minutes for a 45 mile run.

    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,553 Senior Member
    Since when is Amazon a "Tech Giant"? I thought they were a  book store!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,867 Senior Member
    edited February 16 #4
    Amazon Kindles have been around since 2007. It's their own downgraded version of an Android tablet. That's when.

    They sell everything and have become the Walmart of the internet. 

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,553 Senior Member
    Tugar said:
    Amazon Kindles have been around since 2007. It's their own downgraded version of an Android tablet. That's when.

    They sell everything and have become the Walmart of the internet. 

    Oh I know that - I myself own a Kindle. And there's Alexa and similar nonsense. But I still don't view them as a "tech giant", but more like Mal*Wart as you say.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,099 Senior Member
    edited February 16 #6
    I have 5 electric pickups.

    An old pair from my Ibanez, the new pair I put in my Ibanez, and 1 add-on one for my acoustic. 
    Overkill is underrated.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,545 Senior Member
    edited February 16 #7
    cpj said:
    Oh look! An EV thread. In this thread will  will see the following comments:



    This is the future!
    This is a waste of money!
    This will save the planet!
    This isnt a "real" truck!
    The range is too short!
    This is too expensive!
    The batteries are too expensive!
    The batteries will hurt the environment!
    This uses FOSSIL FUELS to charge, it aint green!
    The technology is unreliable!
    This uses electronics that will be outdated in months!
    Its Nancy boy -mobile!
    This has plenty of room for Alpha and his purse! lol!
    I have superior knowledge of these vehicles because the last 5 companies Ive worked for in the past 3 years have been in tight with the development of these vehicles. Soon, they will be driving themselves, which will save lives and insurances costs. If you do not believe me, you are an ignorant Luddite!
    Oh, so now Amazon is SATAN! I shall boycott them for their investment in this company!
    This will be perfect for short trips!



    That pretty much covers it, I think.  
    You forgot. ''Because the gubbermint subsidizes EV's I as a taxpayer get to pay for your truck!''
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • GilaGila Posts: 1,072 Senior Member
    I have 5 electric pickups.

    An old pair from my Ibanez, the new pair I put in my Ibanez, and N add-on one for my acoustic. 
    You beat me to it...  :'(
    No good deed goes unpunished...
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 922 Senior Member
    GM was also in talks with them as a partner alongside Amazon.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,917 Senior Member
    edited February 16 #10
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Somewhat related, from Popular Mechanics

    "August 2018: Porsche just released some new specs about the upcoming Taycan electric car. As expected the electric sedan will make more than 600 horsepower in total system power and come with 800-volt charging capability, which will give the car enough juice to go 400 km (248 mi) in just 15 minutes of charging. Overall, Porsche proclaims an electric range of 500 km (about 310 mi) and a 0–100 kph time of three and a half seconds.

    Porsche says it has built "three figures" worth of Taycan prototypes altogether."


    My latest popular mechanics stated that Porsche improved the charge time to something like five minutes for a 45 mile run.

    Correction, a 350 KW charger will give the Porsche 62 miles of range in 4 minutes, it takes a Tesla Supercharger 10 minutes to do the same thing
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,407 Senior Member
    I've got an electric pickup- - - - -it's called a ":vacuum cleaner".
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • das68das68 Posts: 661 Senior Member
    edited February 16 #12
    Teach said:
    I've got an electric pickup- - - - -it's called a ":vacuum cleaner".

    cord free?


    History is littered with wars which everybody knew would never happen.

    Enoch Powell

  • Troy800Troy800 New Member Posts: 24 New Member
    Do they come with an optional external speaker with a selection of bad sss engines.  Just not very manly to step on the gas and it's quite. Keeping my man card is a must.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,545 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Lurning grammer is a muhst to. 
    Jesus Christ dude...... you need to get laid!

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • das68das68 Posts: 661 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio said:
    cpj said:
    Lurning grammer is a muhst to. 
    Jesus Christ dude...... you need to get laid!

     :* 

    History is littered with wars which everybody knew would never happen.

    Enoch Powell

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,095 Senior Member
    All the tests on those electric trucks aren't real world. Pass some out for testing to the guys and gals that go mud boggin' all over the South. The one(s) that survive that have a chance of success!
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,724 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Since when is Amazon a "Tech Giant"? I thought they were a  book store!
    Seriously?  Over half the internet, a huge chunk of cloud backups, and most of the SaaS software out there runs on "Amazon Web Services" server farms.  AWS is a frigging giant in technology and service providers.


    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,966 Senior Member
    [QUOTE]This has plenty of room for Alpha and his purse![/QUOTE]

    very good
    A Veteran is someone that served in the Military, it does not matter where they served.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,724 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio said:
    cpj said:
    Lurning grammer is a muhst to. 
    Jesus Christ dude...... you need to get laid!

    Sounds like an offer ;)
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,451 Senior Member
    I have ZERO doubt that EV prophecies will come to pass.  I have ZERO doubt that, for many people - possibly even the majority - EVs make a limited sort of sense... most of the time.  I get that the masses will clamor for autonomous vehicles, because that is what masses do.  As tech "evolves", better, more reliable options will be offered, making EVs a much more palatable choice for Joe Sixpack.  

    What I DON'T get is... why do they have to be so freaking ugly?
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,650 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    Oh look! An EV thread. In this thread will  will see the following comments:



    This is the future!
    This is a waste of money!
    This will save the planet!
    This isnt a "real" truck!
    The range is too short!
    This is too expensive!
    The batteries are too expensive!
    The batteries will hurt the environment!
    This uses FOSSIL FUELS to charge, it aint green!
    The technology is unreliable!
    This uses electronics that will be outdated in months!
    Its Nancy boy -mobile!
    This has plenty of room for Alpha and his purse! lol!
    I have superior knowledge of these vehicles because the last 5 companies Ive worked for in the past 3 years have been in tight with the development of these vehicles. Soon, they will be driving themselves, which will save lives and insurances costs. If you do not believe me, you are an ignorant Luddite!
    Oh, so now Amazon is SATAN! I shall boycott them for their investment in this company!
    This will be perfect for short trips!



    That pretty much covers it, I think.  
    Yeah, I can't wait for the day when everybody finally does think exactly the same way, about everything. Once we are all whining about the same thing, all of the hinges can get some oil, instead of just the squeaky ones.
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,679 Senior Member
    All of you nay-sayers just have to look at how cordless power tools have come along. I'm sure there were those that claimed that their corded Milwaukee stuff could never be eclipsed by cordless stuff and now just about every household in the country probably has at least a cordless drill.
     I look forward to having my batteries wear out every few years and my EV become obsolete and worthless every few years as well just as my cordless power tools had done. I've had Makita 7.2V stuff, Makita 9V, then Dewalt 12V, Dewalt 14V, Dewalt 18V, and now we move to lithium ion stuff. I couldn't begin to guess how many replacement batteries I've bought for all of that stuff but I'm sure that EV technology will be much different and last much longer, just ask Wambli.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
    .
  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    All the b.s. aside.  An electric, grocery getter, 1/2 ton "pickup"?  Not too far of a stretch.  Something along the lines of an F350-F550 diesel being replaced by electric? Seems a long way off.
    When they can a power a 10,000 lb pound truck, loaded with 2 tons of tools and fuel,  that pulls a 10-20k lb trailer, that might might drive, or idle, 10-12 hours a day, then they've built an electric pickup.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,553 Senior Member
    All of you nay-sayers just have to look at how cordless power tools have come along. I'm sure there were those that claimed that their corded Milwaukee stuff could never be eclipsed by cordless stuff and now just about every household in the country probably has at least a cordless drill.
     I look forward to having my batteries wear out every few years and my EV become obsolete and worthless every few years as well just as my cordless power tools had done. I've had Makita 7.2V stuff, Makita 9V, then Dewalt 12V, Dewalt 14V, Dewalt 18V, and now we move to lithium ion stuff. I couldn't begin to guess how many replacement batteries I've bought for all of that stuff but I'm sure that EV technology will be much different and last much longer, just ask Wambli.
    Which is EXACTLY why I don't have any "cordless" tools. Batteries are a lot better than they used to be, but they still suck. They always will suck.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,867 Senior Member
    edited February 17 #25
    zorba said:
    All of you nay-sayers just have to look at how cordless power tools have come along. I'm sure there were those that claimed that their corded Milwaukee stuff could never be eclipsed by cordless stuff and now just about every household in the country probably has at least a cordless drill.
     I look forward to having my batteries wear out every few years and my EV become obsolete and worthless every few years as well just as my cordless power tools had done. I've had Makita 7.2V stuff, Makita 9V, then Dewalt 12V, Dewalt 14V, Dewalt 18V, and now we move to lithium ion stuff. I couldn't begin to guess how many replacement batteries I've bought for all of that stuff but I'm sure that EV technology will be much different and last much longer, just ask Wambli.
    Which is EXACTLY why I don't have any "cordless" tools. Batteries are a lot better than they used to be, but they still suck. They always will suck.
    But when I do a simple task or three....it takes less time to grab the cordless and get it done. If it's something that will take an hour of drilling, of course I break out the corded one. They do serve well in the easier tasks. 

    No different with a pickup. If I need 20 bags of mulch and a few sheets of plywood from the corner MegaBuildingMart, it will work fine. Pulling a boat 1000 miles....yeah, I will need an ICE version. 

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,545 Senior Member
    edited February 17 #26
    By far my most used tool EVER!



    Drives every screw, tightens and loosens every bolt. I might have to use a breaker bar to loosen the nut/bolt then the socket goes on the impact to run it up. Working on car or putting up blinds it gets used every time...............

    At least 10 years old now... still original batteries
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,451 Senior Member
    cpj said:
    bisley said:
    cpj said:
    Oh look! An EV thread. In this thread will  will see the following comments:



    This is the future!
    This is a waste of money!
    This will save the planet!
    This isnt a "real" truck!
    The range is too short!
    This is too expensive!
    The batteries are too expensive!
    The batteries will hurt the environment!
    This uses FOSSIL FUELS to charge, it aint green!
    The technology is unreliable!
    This uses electronics that will be outdated in months!
    Its Nancy boy -mobile!
    This has plenty of room for Alpha and his purse! lol!
    I have superior knowledge of these vehicles because the last 5 companies Ive worked for in the past 3 years have been in tight with the development of these vehicles. Soon, they will be driving themselves, which will save lives and insurances costs. If you do not believe me, you are an ignorant Luddite!
    Oh, so now Amazon is SATAN! I shall boycott them for their investment in this company!
    This will be perfect for short trips!



    That pretty much covers it, I think.  
    Yeah, I can't wait for the day when everybody finally does think exactly the same way, about everything. Once we are all whining about the same thing, all of the hinges can get some oil, instead of just the squeaky ones.

    My post was a simple  comentary. And the exact truth of what happens on EVERY electric vehicle post. I can even predict who will say what. So, what’s the point ? I will say I’m surprised that since dear leader has left, it’s actually starting to pick up. He usually got all the natives going. Hmmm.  But anyway, same old aregument ,every damn time. The the old men’s coffee club at the local McDonald’s, electronic version. 
    I'm one, I'll admit.  Funny that you're "notbitching" about something you care so little about, though...

    It's almost as if you really do care. Why comment?  Why not just move on to something worthwhile?  Let the Luddites and the Technos sweat the small stuff. 
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,197 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Which is EXACTLY why I don't have any "cordless" tools. Batteries are a lot better than they used to be, but they still suck. They always will suck.
    I can rebuild the Ni-cad batteries for my Porter Cable cordless tools.

  • AccipiterAccipiter New Member Posts: 134 Member
    edited February 17 #29
    zorba said:
    Which is EXACTLY why I don't have any "cordless" tools. Batteries are a lot better than they used to be, but they still suck. They always will suck.


    Not really.  I make a living with power tools.  If there is a cordless version and it makes sense for me I own it.  I also own a whole suite of corded tools.  Unless I am working in the shop, I use cordless nearly exclusively.  It is just easier and more efficient.  In the shop I use cordless except for planers, or table saws and such.  Running cords everywhere sucks.  I am now considering a cordless miter saw for the job site.  I am even looking at the cordless table saws coming out now. I will let others be the test subjects so they can work out the flaws and then buy the second gen stuff.  There really is no comparison for productivity.


    ETA. I am a proud Luddite.  Sometimes technology just does make it easier.
  • GilaGila Posts: 1,072 Senior Member
    All of you nay-sayers just have to look at how cordless power tools have come along. I'm sure there were those that claimed that their corded Milwaukee stuff could never be eclipsed by cordless stuff and now just about every household in the country probably has at least a cordless drill.
     I look forward to having my batteries wear out every few years and my EV become obsolete and worthless every few years as well just as my cordless power tools had done. I've had Makita 7.2V stuff, Makita 9V, then Dewalt 12V, Dewalt 14V, Dewalt 18V, and now we move to lithium ion stuff. I couldn't begin to guess how many replacement batteries I've bought for all of that stuff but I'm sure that EV technology will be much different and last much longer, just ask Wambli.
    My wife got me a cordless Craftsman drill once.  It had no power, didn't stay charged long enough to do anything and the two batteries I had for it completely quit taking a charge when it was about a year old.
    No good deed goes unpunished...
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,545 Senior Member
    It may be worse now, but it's always been that way. It helps to have a bad memory............ not for you because I'm sure I repeat myself. 
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
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