I smell a strategy, and it is damned effective

gunwalkergunwalker MemberPosts: 470 Member
It seems that state after state and city after city are passing anti gun measures. In some cases municipalities are openly defying state pre-emption laws. The strategy seems to be, pass the laws and let them be challenged in court. The anti gun crowd would see this as a victory because the passed laws must be enforced until a court rules otherwise. This could clog up a court system that is already overwhelmed. And unfortunately there are enough shootings around the country to fuel the anti gun mantra. The camel has it's nose under the tent.
How do you guys see it?
We do not view the world as it is, but as we perceive it to be.

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,816 Senior Member
    Regardless of what the MSM and the usual anti-gun morons scream, gun deaths have been falling for years. They'd fall even further if certain cities/states enforced the damned laws on the books. The local cops and FBI both dropped the ball big time regarding the FL school shooter. The Democrats in the U.S. Congress even killed a measure that would flag illegal aliens trying to buy a firearm by lying on the Form 4473; they don't give a rat's crusty but about keeping the firearms out of the hands of illegals and criminal citizens. They just want to confiscate them. Good luck with that.
    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.


  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,118 Senior Member
    And give all rights to illegal aliens...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,282 Senior Member
    The manipulation of local policy in lue of blanket policy of Federal origin is and has been an emerging stratagem for things other than gun control for some time.

    Its ultimate success or failure, IMO will be geographical. Backlash here is spreading. Some locations will offer more intense opposition than others.

    In a media controlled viewing portal of rhetorical spin. We need people of notoriety to control the language. Emphasis on the rule of law, due process equally applied, consequences of justice denied to the law abiding and the innocent, and arbitrary persecution of those same people can all brought into focus with the right language delivered by the right voices.

    Who and how, I'm without direction.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 1,784 Senior Member
    I read an article several days ago about how some sheriff's are refusing to enforce new gun laws being passed in some states. IIRC, some cities and counties were passing laws/ordinances too
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 4,584 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    I read an article several days ago about how some sheriff's are refusing to enforce new gun laws being passed in some states. IIRC, some cities and counties were passing laws/ordinances too
    Sheriffs in New Mexico, Colorado, and Washington are protesting and stating they will not enforce the laws until the courts decide if constitutional. Even county commissions are passing resolutions forbidding funding related to enforcing the anti-gun laws. It appears there is an obvious divide between rural and urban residents. This is no surprise for the pro gun people who've witnessed this crap for years. 
    The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

    Ayn Rand
  • shootbrownelkshootbrownelk Senior Member Posts: 2,019 Senior Member
    IMO  the gun grabbers will focus on ammunition and reloading supplies, bullets/powder/ primers and brass.  Firearms have 2nd amendment protection.....ammo  does not. Just watch.
  • kansashunterkansashunter Senior Member Posts: 1,411 Senior Member
    They have not tried that around here yet. Luckily we have a real active state organization so hopefully that helps. No national organization is going to be able to fight or even know about local laws, it will take local or state groups.   
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,268 Senior Member
    Remember what kicked off the confrontations at Lexington and Concord- - - - -attempts to confiscate arms and ammo, I believe.  History could repeat itself, and I think that's pretty likely to happen if any serious attempts are made to enforce some of these dopey ideas. 
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • Billy_BuddBilly_Budd Posts: 575 Senior Member
    edited March 9 #10
    Teach said:
    Remember what kicked off the confrontations at Lexington and Concord- - - - -attempts to confiscate arms and ammo, I believe.  History could repeat itself, and I think that's pretty likely to happen if any serious attempts are made to enforce some of these dopey ideas. 
    I hope you're right but things were a lot different back then. In those days like-minded folks actually met with each other in their respective townships, cities, etc, They discussed things, formed leadership, planned, had self-reliance, logistics etc. Today, as a whole, it's all about the next ballgame and posting Facebook memes. Another dilemma, if the balloon went up, is that far too many people have this ridiculous and potentially disastrous lone-wolf mentality as if they're going to singlehandedly fend off the 'zombie hoards' from their wilderness compounds. They'll be the first to be 're-educated.' Not implying that all people will lay down and submit, but unless we unite with our own neighbors and plan, this nation is doomed.   
  • kansashunterkansashunter Senior Member Posts: 1,411 Senior Member
    I don't see any kind of rebellion for many reasons, one of which is you will not be fighting redcoats but fellow citizens. If enough people in red places and blue places decide to separate maybe we would see another split but supported by both sides. After seeing how the Dems are acting just taking the house if they gain a president next election they are going to take us farther down the path to socialism faster than Obama. I am not saying the country is going to come to an end next election but I do believe we are at a crossroad. It's not the politicians that will change it but the voters following them.
  • CaliFFLCaliFFL Senior Member Posts: 4,584 Senior Member
    I don't see any kind of rebellion for many reasons, one of which is you will not be fighting redcoats but fellow citizens. 
    I'm not so sure about this. Many of my fellow citizens have stated loud and clear that my support of the 2A is akin to terrorism. If they legally label me (us) as terrorists, they are my sworn enemy and will be treated as such. Citizenship be damned. 


    The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.

    Ayn Rand
  • gunwalkergunwalker Member Posts: 470 Member
    Remember the adage about those who are ignorant of their history are doomed to repeat it. A lot of Tories could not believe the Crown would actually confiscate guns. They were wrong. A lot of good citizens never believed that a civil war could happen, yet, it did. Germany was one of the best educated nations in Europe. Yet millions of German citizens fell for the argument that the Jews were to blame for Germany's misfortune. I fear that there are way too many gun owners who are assuming that confiscation could never happen here. After-all, they say, we have the second amendment. A lot of Aussies never believed it could happen there. A lot of Brits were astounded that it happened there. A sea change in public opinion is taking shape and it does not bode well. A lot of good citizens are coming to the belief that, if not for guns' lot of police officers would still be alive. You see where this is headed.  I hope that I am very wrong. How have we come from mourning our losses on 9-11 to electing a Muslim to congress who used a profanity to describe our president? Public memory is short. It used to be that we could count on the wisdom of the voters. Now, I'm not so sure. Each of us has to be in the fight.

    We do not view the world as it is, but as we perceive it to be.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,816 Senior Member
    Well, one thing you COULD do is do some serious checking on any militia groups in your state with the intent to join. Militia groups are NOT ALL THE SAME. Find out all you can about the ones you have; some are the Froot Loops, and a VERY select few are actually legit in purpose.
    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.


  • gunwalkergunwalker Member Posts: 470 Member
    You did understand  that I mean the political fight?
    We do not view the world as it is, but as we perceive it to be.
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