Caca De Estrella (New Gun)

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 9,661 Senior Member
edited March 12 in General Firearms #1
Or,  in English, the Star Model  BM


I have been keeping an eye on these being imported for the last few months and kept talking myself out of it until J&G Sales last week was offering them for $149.

So, I bought this one.  Picked it up today and since my new favorite FFL is an indoor range, I got to shoot it as soon as I signed the paperwork.

If you are not familiar with the Star BM, it is a 9mm Luger, steel frame, 8+1, single stack, single action pistol that is roughly modeled after a commander sized 1911.  The Star BM was a Spanish national police sidearm from the early 1970s through 1992, when the Spanish govt watched Lethal Weapon too many times and decided to replace it with the Beretta 92.  This one was built in 1976.

Impressions:  This is a neat and handy gun.  For being a steel frame 9mm, I was surprised by the recoil being a bit more ‘vigorous’ than I expected, but that could be a factor of the slick plastic grips and the propensity of this gun to get ‘bitey’


I have about 2 mags through it when I took this pic.  It ended up chewing a little hole in my hand.  I’m gonna take the hammer to the belt grinder over the next couple of days and fix this issue.

The trigger was pretty nice, the slide very slick to run, and the safety was very nice in action.  When I got it home, I took off the grips and took out the mag brake/ mag safety, and now the trigger is MUCH better, and the magazine spits free of the gun like it is mad at it.

Accuracy?  Well, the sights suck.  The front sight is wide and dark black and very visable.  The rear sight is narrow, shallow, and needs help.  I’ll be getting the needle files after it soon to make it more usable. The gun hits slightly high and left at 7 yards.  Here is my target with about 7 mags through it:



It shows promise.  Thinking if I don’t flinch from slide bite and fix the sights, I can make that better.  Here is 2 mags and 3 round through at 10 yards 



Still not bad.  I can work with that.

Now, for some gun porn!



To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov

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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 25,727 Senior Member
    That's a nice looking pistol, and that high left can be corrected with a little rear sight adjustment and maybe a little filing on the front. I like that it is made very similar to a 1911; that should make it easy to shoot. That hammer could use a little bobbing on the spur judging by that very red spot on your hand. Shorter with rounded edges is the ticket on that.

    The name cracks me up, though. Caca de Estrella, and Star Model BM. Caca and BM. Too funny!
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,829 Senior Member
    Yeah..Caca is what my Mom used to call poop....and BM? Just a crappy combination...

    But (no pun intended)....hope you enjoy the new shooter.....not a bad price point...
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,071 Senior Member
    Nice! Cheaper than a Hi-Point, and much nicer. I'm wondering if I need one...
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,829 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Nice! Cheaper than a Hi-Point, and much nicer. I'm wondering if I need one...
    Only if you get rid of the Hi-Point...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,231 Senior Member
    I've read about them. I like!

    I have occasion to use a product called athletic tape or blister tape. A small piece on the web of your hand at the range would protect it.
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 1,948 Senior Member
    For $149 and a little grinding work, I'm jealous.

    BM and caca? Something smells like victory in the morning.
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  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,246 Senior Member
    looks like a pretty good buy for the price. Congrats.

    Sako
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,978 Senior Member
    Congrats on the new Pistola................it shoots good, plus you are a good shot.
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,039 Senior Member
    I saw one offered at Cheaper than Dirt for that price, but only for a couple of days.  I seriously thought about buying one, since they have a pretty good rep,  but didn't.  Now they're $179 or a "gunsmith special" for $149, missing parts.  I'm in a selling mood, anyway.  Need to unload some inventory.
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 20,564 Senior Member
    My dad has a Star 9mm. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 4,422 Senior Member
    Before you start filing down sights, add rubber grips and file on them. Who cares, the gun ain't pretty, never has been, never will be. I bet it'll work just fine, though.

    Mike
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  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,246 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    My dad has a Star 9mm. 
    Must be a dad thing, mine had this star 40 S&W in his collection. Kind of heavy but it's always been a solid shooter.
  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,353 Senior Member
    They had a pretty good following years ago. They had a little .45 caliber version too. I'm thinking it had an alloy frame? Called the PD. 

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  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,889 Senior Member
    Nice price---------you will just have to aim farther right.

    Put a spotter out to the right on your tgt and shoot at the spotter until you get more use to the pistol and do not need it anymore.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,231 Senior Member
    edited March 13 #16
    I think they had sort of a cult following at one time. Kind of like Makarovs or maybe pre accu trigger Savage rifles. Understated quality.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Senior Member Posts: 7,219 Senior Member
    I used to work with a pilot was originally from Spain and he desperately wanted to get his hands on one.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,487 Senior Member
    These were also chambered in 9 Largo. A strange round similar to a 380 IIRC.
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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 10,719 Senior Member
    edited March 13 #19
    My Uncle had one, he liked it enough to give it to his only daughter,nice "find". Can you add a beaver tail to it?. 
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  • AntonioAntonio Senior Member Posts: 2,327 Senior Member
    Nice pistol! There's something that makes those Spanish pistols attractive, although some designs are not the prettiest ones.

    We used to have the 9mm. Star M-30 as police sidearm during the '80s; they partially replaced a hodgepodge of revolvers (.32, .38 & .357 Colts & S&Ws mainly) and pistols (Hipowers and 1911A-1s), closely standardizing the police sidearms  & calibers. Nice pistols although SA (Which required extensive retraining of the revolver-issued cops) and with some issues with the rubber grips that couldn't withstand the hazardous overall conditions they were submitted to, either cracking or wearing down. Eventually they were replaced by the Beretta 92Fs during the '90s.
  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,046 Senior Member
    Freezer said:
    These were also chambered in 9 Largo. A strange round similar to a 380 IIRC.
    More like a .38 ACP:  the Largo had a 23 mm case vs. 22.9 for the ACP, slightly longer overall length, and 67 fps more velocity with a slightly heavier bullet. 
    Overkill is underrated.
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,441 Senior Member
    Looks good!  I could see one of those in my vault!
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  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 18,657 Senior Member
    edited March 14 #23
    eres un inútil
    Google translate says that's spanish for "you suck". Other translator sites say otherwise
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  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 846 Senior Member
    My dad has a Star Model B, if I recall correctly.  What little time I have had it in my hands did not give me any reason to not ever consider one.
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 21,802 Senior Member
    edited March 16 #25
    Yeah, well Bulsi being from Austin is probably quite familiar with the word CaCa. It's Local hispanic slang for poo. One of our favorite phrases when I was in high school was caca del toro, Poo of the bull, in other words, BS.
    Sometimes we could get away with saying it out loud but some of our more savvy teachers picked up on it and then it would get you a trip to the board meeting in the principal's office. That was in the days when a paddling wasn't yet deemed child abuse, especially for high schoolers

    Anyway, damn nice pistol for that price. I'm envious.


    Daddy, what's an enabler?
    Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,046 Senior Member
    I have always wanted a baby Browning.  I heard the Spanish made some, but I have never spotted one.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,661 Senior Member
    Thanks, everyone!

    To carry the joke even further, I noticed this:

    It has “BM on the butt.

    Anywhoo... I ground down and reshaped the hammer, then ran another 50-60 rounds through it.  No hammer bite, no malfunctions, still printing the rounds just a tad to the left.  Time to start working on the sights!
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
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