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Price of reloading brass vs. loaded ammo

tennmiketennmike Senior MemberPosts: 27,395 Senior Member
I needed some 8x57 brass for reloading so I did the search of the usual suspects. Prices were kinda high for a bag of 50. Did another search for loaded ammo. Wow....................loaded ammo was the same or cheaper than the loaded brass for 50 rounds. PPU loaded ammo for a little over $17/ box of 20. That's just nuts. So I bought the PPU ammo instead.

I also bought some more .22 WMR as that is always the first to disappear, along with .22LR, in panic buys, and I see one of those panic buying stampedes on the horizon.
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  • timctimc Senior Member Posts: 6,684 Senior Member
    I recently needed some new .45 acp brass. The cost of the brass then loading was more than buying loaded 230 grain ball ammo. I bought 2000 rounds and will reload the brass as I empty it.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    With only a few past exceptions, I buy loaded ammo and save the brass as opposed to new unfired cases.
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,443 Senior Member
    Only issue I have ever heard regarding PPU 8x57 is that they download the JS ammunition just incase someone throws it into a J bore rifle.  That being said, I have yet to shoot any of the PPU 8x57 so I cant say if its downloaded for sure or not as I have no experience with it.  I ned to go through my brass stores again to see what I have plenty of and what I should get some more of.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Seeing as how the 8x57 ammo I bought is 196 grain bullet, I wouldn't mind if they downloaded it a bit. Shooting it out of a Yugo carbine is gonna have some killin' going on a both ends.
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  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,265 Senior Member
    I have a good stock pile of most that I shoot . No panic will hit me at all . The only smaller amount of stock is in the .22 boxes . Without counting I would say around 200 boxes will last me a while . With all the new ideas coming out of Washington there is no telling what they will come up with next . When I am to old to shoot ...... I will have a lot to sell & may make enough money to have a cute nurse look after me .
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,823 Senior Member
    PPU is good stuff, too! They make a lot of the odd ball stuff that's hard to find, like .303 Savage!! I also bought some for my 1909 Argentine, it was cheaper than reloading! For blasting ammo the price is right!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    edited March 2019 #8
    PPU 7x57 Mauser hunting ammo is good stuff, too. I have several boxes of that stuff on hand. It shoots GREAT out of the rifle I built on a 98 Mauser action. 24" barrel and target insert front sight and Williams receiver sight on the rear. Since I got cataract surgery my groups shrank considerably, too. Rifle is a little heavy, but dang! I can hit what I shoot with it!
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  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,851 Senior Member
    One of the best 'wound channels' I've witnessed was the result of PPU 6.5 x 55, standard soft point.  I've always thought highly of PPU and other Eastern European ammo and firearm makers.  And yes, buy loaded and keep your brass.
    When I first started loading 45 acp, I bought a couple bags of range brass locally for $10 or so.  Works great.

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  • GilaGila Posts: 1,828 Senior Member
    I usually get my brass from loaded ammo after I've fired it unless I need it in a hurry.  I never use brass that I don't know the complete history of.
    No good deed goes unpunished...
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,443 Senior Member
    So far I have one cartridge that I stick with a "premium" brass and that is my 6.5x55.  I stick to Lapua brass for that cartridge.  A few years back that was the only brass I could find for it and the only ammunition I could find was Hornady Superformance.  When the Hornady factory load was running several hundred FPS faster than their max "safe" load for a M96 action I decided it wasnt worth the risk to try the factory ammunition.  My other option was Hot Shot branded ammunition, but it was such a low pressure that I had issues due to debris blowing back and locking up the case to the chamber.  I have never had brass come out so nasty.  Two rounds of that crap and I never used it again.

    So far all my 8x57 brass is Hornady, and I dont have real high hopes for its longevity unless I stick to rather mild loads.  That being said, since my 8x57 rifles have steel butt plates I plan on sticking to mild loads.
  • PegasusPegasus Senior Member Posts: 2,760 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    I needed some 8x57 brass for reloading so I did the search of the usual suspects. Prices were kinda high for a bag of 50. Did another search for loaded ammo. Wow....................loaded ammo was the same or cheaper than the loaded brass for 50 rounds. PPU loaded ammo for a little over $17/ box of 20. That's just nuts. So I bought the PPU ammo instead.

    I also bought some more .22 WMR as that is always the first to disappear, along with .22LR, in panic buys, and I see one of those panic buying stampedes on the horizon.


    I'm not clear on the difference between "loaded brass" and "loaded ammo."  I would think the price would be the same as it's the same thing.

    For my match ammo, I start with virgin brass from Lapua, which I prepare lightly for the first loading and then process the same way for all subsequent loadings.  Since there is no factory ammo available for match purposes, I have to start with virgin brass.

    For non-match purposes, I sometimes buy factory ammo, the brass of which I can reload provided it's decent brass. I have bought some Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo and I consider it and its component very subpar.  The brass is thin and of not very good quality.  I have also in the past bought large lots of Winchester brass during a good sale and I have worked my way preparing it for first loading and tossing out about 5-10% as purge junk.

    There are some outfits making great brass besides Lapua; Norma, Nosler, Starline and others.

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 27,395 Senior Member
    Pegasus said:


    I'm not clear on the difference between "loaded brass" and "loaded ammo."  I would think the price would be the same as it's the same thing.

    For my match ammo, I start with virgin brass from Lapua, which I prepare lightly for the first loading and then process the same way for all subsequent loadings.  Since there is no factory ammo available for match purposes, I have to start with virgin brass.

    For non-match purposes, I sometimes buy factory ammo, the brass of which I can reload provided it's decent brass. I have bought some Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo and I consider it and its component very subpar.  The brass is thin and of not very good quality.  I have also in the past bought large lots of Winchester brass during a good sale and I have worked my way preparing it for first loading and tossing out about 5-10% as purge junk.

    There are some outfits making great brass besides Lapua; Norma, Nosler, Starline and others.

    Well pardon the hell all out of me for making a typing error. I will go sit in the corner and contemplate this grievous error against humanity.  :D

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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,748 Senior Member
    Our ammo could be assembled with sub par brass, but our personal brass is anything but subpar! :D
  • PegasusPegasus Senior Member Posts: 2,760 Senior Member
    tennmike said:
    Pegasus said:


    I'm not clear on the difference between "loaded brass" and "loaded ammo."  I would think the price would be the same as it's the same thing.

    For my match ammo, I start with virgin brass from Lapua, which I prepare lightly for the first loading and then process the same way for all subsequent loadings.  Since there is no factory ammo available for match purposes, I have to start with virgin brass.

    For non-match purposes, I sometimes buy factory ammo, the brass of which I can reload provided it's decent brass. I have bought some Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo and I consider it and its component very subpar.  The brass is thin and of not very good quality.  I have also in the past bought large lots of Winchester brass during a good sale and I have worked my way preparing it for first loading and tossing out about 5-10% as purge junk.

    There are some outfits making great brass besides Lapua; Norma, Nosler, Starline and others.

    Well pardon the hell all out of me for making a typing error. I will go sit in the corner and contemplate this grievous error against humanity.  :D

    I'm sorry, but that's definitely not sufficient penance for such an egregious error.  I suggest 20 lashes with a wet noodle. 
  • Elk creekElk creek Senior Member Posts: 6,450 Senior Member
    Pegasus said:
    tennmike said:
    Pegasus said:


    I'm not clear on the difference between "loaded brass" and "loaded ammo."  I would think the price would be the same as it's the same thing.

    For my match ammo, I start with virgin brass from Lapua, which I prepare lightly for the first loading and then process the same way for all subsequent loadings.  Since there is no factory ammo available for match purposes, I have to start with virgin brass.

    For non-match purposes, I sometimes buy factory ammo, the brass of which I can reload provided it's decent brass. I have bought some Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo and I consider it and its component very subpar.  The brass is thin and of not very good quality.  I have also in the past bought large lots of Winchester brass during a good sale and I have worked my way preparing it for first loading and tossing out about 5-10% as purge junk.

    There are some outfits making great brass besides Lapua; Norma, Nosler, Starline and others.

    Well pardon the hell all out of me for making a typing error. I will go sit in the corner and contemplate this grievous error against humanity.  :D

    I'm sorry, but that's definitely not sufficient penance for such an egregious error.  I suggest 20 lashes with a wet noodle. 
    And 10 hail Browning’s....
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • PegasusPegasus Senior Member Posts: 2,760 Senior Member
    At least 10, but probably more are needed.  This was a very bad error; confusing "it's" and "its", that's a typo; writing "loaded brass" instead of "virgin brass", that's a frain bart.
  • GilaGila Posts: 1,828 Senior Member
    Loaded brass:


    No good deed goes unpunished...
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