German non Mauser trials rifle

das68

6mm also

Big Al1

Interesting design but without the controlled feed, it couldn't compete with the '98. Kind of hard to double feed one of those!! It probably would have made a decent sporting rifle, though!!

tennmike

The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.

das68

tennmike said:

The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.

the dovetail barrel block looks very neat

Antonio

Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.

das68

Antonio said:

Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.

the lee enfield did twice

tennmike

das68 said:

tennmike said:

The bolt lugs locking into the barrel is something that has been copied by many manufacturers over the last century.

the dovetail barrel block looks very neat

And that dovetail barrel block is VERY busy as to machining. Back when labor was cheap it was an option. Now it would add at least $100-150 to the price of a rifle.

das68

 they didn't have cnc machines then

Linefinder

I've milled dovetails on thousands of PLASTIC parts,and nary a one on steel. I hate 'em. With a passion. 

Dovetails, done right, are cool. But they're extremely hard to get right. If I had to machine a truly accurate dovetail into mating parks, in steel,......well, add  $1K or 2. And you still not get it.

Mike

tennmike

Linefinder said:

I've milled dovetails on thousands of PLASTIC parts,and nary a one on steel. I hate 'em. With a passion. 

Dovetails, done right, are cool. But they're extremely hard to get right. If I had to machine a truly accurate dovetail into mating parks, in steel,......well, add  $1K or 2. And you still not get it.

Mike

Other than milling dovetails for sights on barrels I've only done one large dovetail of mating parts. The dovetail cutters for sights are all a little shy on width, or so it seems, so you can either file out the dovetail on the barrel, or the sight to get a good tight fit.

The mating dovetail for the big one was for a quick change toolpost I built for the lathe. Was 1.5" wide. And it was easy because of the 3/32" brass gib that is used to take up the 'wobbleicity' a highly technical machining term for 'it don't fit tight'. All lathes and milling machines I've ever worked on had gibs that have to be adjusted to take up wear that happens over time.

I can't imagine making two parts dovetail tightly together without some file work.

das68

and the cartridge?

although i think it would have been a 58mm not a 57mm

Antonio

das68 said:

Antonio said:

Saw it this morning....nice rifle but hard to beat the Gew 98.

the lee enfield did twice

Bigslug

I'm really surprised the takedown method never caught on - that's some clever stuff.

Tugar

The dust cover is a great idea. I like the rifle and wish it had at least caught on a little. Sounds like politics to a point. Yes the Mauser is controlled feed and most likely tipped the balance, but since the inventor was in on the commission rifle, that had to play a part.