The Mueller report is done!

FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior MemberPosts: 5,709 Senior Member
So, 675 days and 41 million dollars later the FBI can't find anything to get rid or our president with. I'm guessing the results had been leaked to Pelosi when she announced a couple of weeks ago that Trump wasn't worth impeachment.
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For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,806 Senior Member
    But wait there's more. This is just the begging. Tune in next week for the next exciting episode. And don't forget to watch for the next letter in the secret code word needed to send in for your very own no collusion decoder ring!
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,190 Senior Member
    Pelosi is already lining up the House committees to grill Mule Ear and his lawyers to see if they can dig up SOMETHING to use against Trump. I hear the Potomac and Anacostia rivers are near flood stage due to the influx of Liberal tears at Mule Ear's announcement of no more indictments are forthcoming. I heard the wailing and gnashing of teeth all the way down here in the hills of East TN! It ain't over because the fat lady isn't singing yet.
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • ArmoredmanArmoredman Member Posts: 351 Member
    They have already stated that Mueller was just a side show - the REAL action will be the 2nd District Court of New York...whatever that means. I think President Trump should countersue to recoup the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,898 Senior Member
    "New York"...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,798 Senior Member
    They have already stated that Mueller was just a side show - the REAL action will be the 2nd District Court of New York...whatever that means. I think President Trump should countersue to recoup the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted.
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,709 Senior Member
    They have already stated that Mueller was just a side show - the REAL action will be the 2nd District Court of New York...whatever that means. I think President Trump should countersue to recoup the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted.
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 

    Got any legitimate charts and graphs to substantiate your numbers? I'm pretty sure that Republicans haven't been calling the shots for the last 20 years.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,087 Senior Member
    When will these idiots stop all these childish investigations and do the work the elected to do!!
    It's rhetorical because I know the answer is never!!

  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,750 Senior Member
    The Democrats have spent all of their time hating and attempting to make Trump look bad and maybe catch a thread of something to get him legally since before his inauguration.  They now have a huge line up for 2020 and not a one of them stands a chance of winning, especially if Trump would just keep his mouth shut.  Unfortunately he wont.  He will never be impeached or found guilty of anything except being a big mouth, just like Nixon or either of the Clintons. Everyone knows they did it, but nothing will happen, just like CPJ used to say.
    Mueller was a take a chance, get what you can and keep peoples attention while Congress attempts to pass laws only a few want. Those charged because of the investigation were only doing what both parties have been doing for years. The Dems are just getting even for the Clinton investigation that proved she committed crimes, but they said she didn't.  It will go on and on, unless they decide the only way to get rid of Trump is to do like they did with the Kennedy brothers.  Trump did not reclassify that investigation because it said Oswald and then Sirhan Sirhan acted alone.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,190 Senior Member
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 
    The Republicans would have had both of them in prison by now, but for some reason the witnesses against the Clintons  all seem to end up as suicides with multiple gunshot wounds to the back of the head. How strange!
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,750 Senior Member
    They have already stated that Mueller was just a side show - the REAL action will be the 2nd District Court of New York...whatever that means. I think President Trump should countersue to recoup the millions of taxpayer dollars wasted.
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 
    Alpha you have worked for and around the Government for some time. If you have done half of what you claim, you have held at least a Secret Clearance. You have had all the mandatory training and KNOW what Hillary did over and over was illegal. Because of her actions more and more training has been added. They used to say that using personal devices is illegal and move on. Now there are specific blocks of instruction on it. You know better, why do you argue these points?
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,806 Senior Member
    Part of the problem in addition to media bias is all the soap opera mileage for viewer recidivism.
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,198 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 
    Alpha you have worked for and around the Government for some time. If you have done half of what you claim, you have held at least a Secret Clearance. You have had all the mandatory training and KNOW what Hillary did over and over was illegal. Because of her actions more and more training has been added. They used to say that using personal devices is illegal and move on. Now there are specific blocks of instruction on it. You know better, why do you argue these points?
    He does it to be an irritant, nothing more. In the more than 10 years I have been on this forum, he has tried and failed many times to convince us that his way of thinking is the correct way. Kind of reminds me of that old definition of insanity....trying the same idea over and over and expecting a different result.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,198 Senior Member
    Did Republicans ever pay back the probably almost billions at this point spent over two decades spent investigating the Clintons? 
    The Mueller investigation was started illegally by Obama FBI and CIA officials based on lies and a phony dossier. The Clintons have committed actual crimes based on reality.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,733 Senior Member
    At this point, everything is political brinkmanship, resulting from the Democrats not having absolute control of the Justice Department, for the first time in 10 years. They don't know what AG Barr is going to do about the Justice Department attempt to insure the outcome of an election for the Democrat Party, that evolved into an attempted coupe of a sitting president.

    When non-cabinet level government administrators discuss among themselves how to remove a President from office, it is treason, if proved, and there is ample evidence to warrant a criminal investigation - much more than ever existed against Trump.

    The Democrats are doubling down, using their control of House committees and a complicit media to make so much noise that the AG will decide to back down from holding the Justice Department to account for their coupe attempt.

    Barr is the unknown quantity, at this point. If he lets all of the Justice Department violators off the hook, I think I will throw up. It will mean that the Beltway establishment is alive and well, and that there is no crime by their members that will not be swept under the carpet. The fact that Rosenstein is still there either means that he is ratting everybody out to the Inspector General, to avoid his own prosecution, or he is giving Barr advice on how to make it all go away.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Even with a crew of attack dogs hand picked by his democrat buddies, Mueller couldn't manufacture enough "evidence" to implicate anyone in the "crimes" he was appointed to "investigate".  He also ignored the real criminal activity of the other side.  The guy must be pretty inept to fail to make even a kangaroo court reach the verdict it was intended to accomplish.
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,750 Senior Member
    Teach said:
    Even with a crew of attack dogs hand picked by his democrat buddies, Mueller couldn't manufacture enough "evidence" to implicate anyone in the "crimes" he was appointed to "investigate".  He also ignored the real criminal activity of the other side.  The guy must be pretty inept to fail to make even a kangaroo court reach the verdict it was intended to accomplish.
    Teach I agree with almost everything you said. But I think Mueller must be brilliant to not implicate one Democrat in this investigation.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 6,639 Senior Member

    A few minutes ago, Barr's 4 page summary of the Mueller report was released.  I listened to the reading of the report.

    The report completely and totally exonerated  Trump and anyone associated with his campaign of colluding with the Russians, although it did find that the Russians tried to interfere.  There was just no one in Trump land that aided or abetted them.

    As for obstruction of justice, the report did not reach a conclusion.  It left that to the DOJ.  Both  Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein have concluded that there is insufficient evidence to proceed with obstruction charges.  No doubt the dems will be screaming bloody murder over that.

    Barr also said he will probably not release the entire report due to the fact that doing so would be in violation of the law.  Even Alan Dershowitz agrees with that.  He will release as much of it as allowed by law.

    I guess we'll find out how extreme the dems want to be to get Trump.  Going after Clinton in '98 cost the repubs.  I think that Nancy is well aware of that, and really wants her bunch to pull back.   I think she's lost control of the party, though, so who knows what's going to happen.

    Time will tell.

    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,806 Senior Member
    This early in the 2020 run, they can push and sling mud until they go too far. Then pull back and save face in time to capitalize on whatever prosecutors in NY dig up. They have the advantage of not having their cheeks lit up for a cavity search well siting in congress. The Democratic presidential candidates can just lay low and try to keep their cheeks out of the light.

    Trump goes into the run wasting time on the defensive unless party strategists can split up the Dems over socialism and other assorted boondoggles that have gone by under the radar with Trump monopolizing the spotlight.

    Then there's always twitter. Now an equal opportunity trip wire for anyone careless.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,190 Senior Member
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    Teach said:
    Even with a crew of attack dogs hand picked by his democrat buddies, Mueller couldn't manufacture enough "evidence" to implicate anyone in the "crimes" he was appointed to "investigate".  He also ignored the real criminal activity of the other side.  The guy must be pretty inept to fail to make even a kangaroo court reach the verdict it was intended to accomplish.
    I reckon if old Mule Ear was to find evidence of Russian collusion to interfere in the election and studiously ignored Hillary, it could be that he found his signed suicide note on her illegal e-mail server and decided discretion (chickening out on investigating her) was the best option available and decided to ignore the obvious evidence against her. The fact that she lied repeatedly to the FBI, they KNEW she lied, and never charged her says all I need to know about how corrupt and partisan the FBI upper echelon is. They are to law enforcement what exploding nuclear weapons are to gardening. I cannot muster a single iota of respect or trust for those higher ups in the DC FBI building. They are rotting the organization thoroughly from the top, and it will seep downward, because gravity sucks, and poop and water both flow downhill.


    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • JermanatorJermanator Senior Member Posts: 15,351 Senior Member
    No collusion. Good. I am glad that is over with.

    The Democrats (and Republicans) would be wise to move on after this.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,190 Senior Member
    They are moving on................to endless House Investigations on Trump and collusion. Ol' Adam Schiff from California says he's got the goods on Trump and is ready to lay it out and start impeachment. This mess isn't over until Trump is out of office; maybe not even then.
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,898 Senior Member
    "California"...
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,806 Senior Member
    Political office is multi million dollar business. This mud will be milked, slung, and reslung until it runs dry and blows away.
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Posts: 26,190 Senior Member
    Political office is multi million dollar business. This mud will be milked, slung, and reslung until it runs dry and blows away.
    Being that about 75% of the members of the House and Senate became millionaires AFTER they took office, I'd say your statement about political office being a multi million dollar business is way too close to the truth.
    If the U.S. Congress was put in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in under six months.



  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,733 Senior Member
    I have one somewhat objective irony to point out at this point. It would be hilarious, except that it is so damaging to the institutions that we have to depend on for information.

    Right before our eyes, we are seeing the 'transparency' arguments that were being made by each side flip-flopped. The Democrats, who defended the Justice Department for withholding crucial documents and massive redactions, are now screaming for "full and total transparency," while Republicans are now defending that right.

    The behavior of the Justice Department, over the next few months, will determine to what level the current 'two-tier' justice system, that reached its most absurd peak during the Obama administration, is enshrined for all time, or is scaled back to its former 'in the closet' level, that  average citizens are only suspicious about (as opposed to having it shoved into their face, every day).
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,806 Senior Member
    I just finished the book In The Spirit of Crazy Horse by Peter Mathiessen about the FBI shootout on Pine Ridge Reservation in1975. It cast serious aspersions on the DOJ including some refrences to an FBI program called COINTELPRO.

    They've been suspicious for a very long time.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    Back up a few decades and research the Volstead Act (prohibition) enforcement guys.  They were so corrupt and crooked that J. Edgar Hoover didn't want them incorporated into the FBI  once they had nothing to do when booze became legal again.  He set up a special enforcement division that later became the BATFEIEIO so they wouldn't corrupt his lily-white choirboys.  Then- - - - -along came Barack Hussein Obama!
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,798 Senior Member
    http://time.com/5557644/donald-trump-other-investigations-mueller/

    Here are all the other angles from which Trump is being investigated. I guess we'll get to find out if he's as slick as good ol' slick Willy. Republicans came at him from every angle and then his wife for another decade and never were able to nail anything on them. Dems are going with the same strategy and I'm not sure it's a good one. They would be best to mostly shut up about it all and focus on trying to beat him politically if they want a chance in 2020. Right now I'd say he goes into the election as a clear favorite.


    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,428 Senior Member
    The dems are just jealous that somebody has learned to use their playbook- - - - -and he's better at it than they are!  They thought that they wrote the book on underhanded sleazeball tactics, only to find that their own methods can actually be rewritten, refined, and used against them.  It would be like the Filipinos discovering that somebody had figured out a better way to separate a drunk GI from his money, and make him actually enjoy getting fleeced!  
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,733 Senior Member
    http://time.com/5557644/donald-trump-other-investigations-mueller/

    Here are all the other angles from which Trump is being investigated. I guess we'll get to find out if he's as slick as good ol' slick Willy. Republicans came at him from every angle and then his wife for another decade and never were able to nail anything on them. Dems are going with the same strategy and I'm not sure it's a good one. They would be best to mostly shut up about it all and focus on trying to beat him politically if they want a chance in 2020. Right now I'd say he goes into the election as a clear favorite.


    That has always been their focus. When you have nothing positive to offer the public, you must destroy your opponent. They just don't seem to have enough good pit bulls to do the deed. Sol Alinski has to be rolling over in his grave, over a failed character assassination, and the specter of Adam Schiff becoming the Democrat version of Joe McCarthy.

    The media darlings have made such fools of themselves over this poorly executed frame job that they have made Sean Hannity look like journalistic icon. All of the juicy rhetoric that used to work for them, before Trump, will now be just too boring, after salivating over his impending impeachment and imprisonment, for two years.

    If the Democrats keep doubling down every time they are proven wrong, they are screwed. Somebody had better get a good idea, soon, and hope that they can find a valid candidate with enough credibility to sell it.
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