More on Buttigieg

alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior MemberPosts: 8,659 Senior Member
I know I have posted about him before. Here's another interview with him. Also some question and answer session audio linked below.


Yes, he's young, yes he has less experience but he's also a veteran, he's a Rhode Scholar, and he's the mayor of a Midwestern city and understands "flyover country" better than any other candidate in the primary. He's still a longshot to win the primary because democrats seem intent on going full socialist, but if enough of them retain their sanity I think he would probably give Trump a run for his money. Unfortunately if this election is like every other one since I've been old enough to vote, the dems will nominate Harris and Trump will cruise to re-election.



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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,288 Senior Member
    Who knows? I'd like to at least see somebody who isn't a flaming communist in the race, but that interview raises more questions than it answers. I like Trump, I've never made a secret of that - but I also don't care for Pence, and don't want him to become "anointed" as a POTUS candidate in 2024 which would LOSE the race for the GOP as a consequence.
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  • Billy_BuddBilly_Budd Posts: 638 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Who knows? I'd like to at least see somebody who isn't a flaming communist in the race, but that interview raises more questions than it answers. I like Trump, I've never made a secret of that - but I also don't care for Pence, and don't want him to become "anointed" as a POTUS candidate in 2024 which would LOSE the race for the GOP as a consequence.
    Completely agree, Zorba. 
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,457 Senior Member
    What I was able to read before my phone dropped the link, I liked what he had to say. The DNC is their own worst enemy right now, so time will tell...........
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,659 Senior Member
    What I was able to read before my phone dropped the link, I liked what he had to say. The DNC is their own worst enemy right now, so time will tell...........
    Agree completely. I've long joked they're the Washington Generals of politics sometimes
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  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,076 Senior Member
    Say he gets elected....

    What do we call his husband? First husband?
    Spouse supreme? 
    Overkill is underrated.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,457 Senior Member
    If a married straight woman was elected President, her husband would receive the same title as Buttigieg's husband. Whatever that title is.

    It does pose some uncomfortable circumstances for those of us that grew up with such things in the closet. Could be an issue with foreign relations of other countries too. Likely not prohibitive I would think?


  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,076 Senior Member
    Ireland's Prime Minister brought his boyfriend to some state functions with VP Pence...
    Overkill is underrated.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,457 Senior Member
    I'm missing half the world with my lack of cable tv. Maybe not so uncomfortable for me.
  • Billy_BuddBilly_Budd Posts: 638 Senior Member
    Say he gets elected....

    What do we call his husband? First husband?
    Spouse supreme? 
    "Spouse Supreme" ... Lol! God help us. 
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 10,133 Senior Member
    edited March 31 #11
    I would base my vote on his positions, not on his sexual preferences.  He has NO chance to be the next president, not because he's gay, but because he's a WM "somewhat unusual" and the dems are looking for a very unusable female, preferably a BFM, for whatever reason they seem to think race/gender (especially gender) qualifies a person to be president.  Look at Joan Walsh, who said that Joe Biden shouldn't run for president because he's a WM.  A single-issue bunch of dumbasses over in the DNC.
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  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,583 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    I would base my vote on his positions, not on his sexual preferences.  He has NO chance to be the next president, not because he's gay, but because he's a WM "somewhat unusual" and the dems are looking for a very unusable female, preferably a BFM, for whatever reason they seem to think race/gender (especially gender) qualifies a person to be president.  Look at Joan Walsh, who said that Joe Biden shouldn't run for president because he's a WM.  A single-issue bunch of dumbasses over in the DNC.

    The DNC has become their own worst enemy! Fine with me. I am a conservative as in fiscal responsibility and small government. Nearly 50 years ago when I could vote I could have been a conservative democrat as they were still allowed. I literally flipped a coin and it came up R. I have no regrets. I am a cold warrior. Been there, done that, got the certificate. Communism does not work.   
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,606 Senior Member

    The only difference between Buttgieg and most of the other Dem candidates is that he doesn't offend everybody with the socialist hate speech. He is smart enough to not offend the mainstream, or the hardcore socialists.

    He is still down for all of the left-wing BS - he just doesn't pin it on his chest like a badge. Chris Wallace asked him a lot of questions about the boilerplate 'platform issues,' and he does not vary in any significant way from any other ultra - liberal Democrat. He just tries to make them all sound normal and sensible, unlike the other candidates, who come off as borderline lunatics.

    He is the one who can run as a moderate, who isn't 80 years old, and he will 'pivot' according to whatever the pollsters say will get the most votes. In other words, he's a typical Democrat from a previous rendition, before they started admitting they favored socialism.

  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,457 Senior Member
    I seem him more as a typical politician than a typical Democra as far as predicting a change in rhetoric based on opinion poles. 
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,606 Senior Member
    I'll go along with that, but with a few exceptions (very few).
  • terminator012terminator012 Senior Member Posts: 3,899 Senior Member
    Can you change the original title cause when I glance at this thread the title reads something else.
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,659 Senior Member
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/03/mayor-pete-buttigieg-christian-right-2020-democratic-primary-trump-column/3342767002/

    Here's an article on his deep faith. If nothing else this guy knows the right things to say. He will be a formidable candidate.
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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,334 Senior Member

    Hmmmm- - - - -an openly gay president with a name like "Butt-gig"- - - - - - -that would give the late night comedians a wealth of material to work with- - - - -but only if he was a Republican!


    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Senior Member Posts: 7,104 Senior Member
    Teach said:

    Hmmmm- - - - -an openly gay president with a name like "Butt-gig"- - - - - - -that would give the late night comedians a wealth of material to work with- - - - -but only if he was a Republican!


    Damn, Jerry I was just about to make a remark similar to this. Now you spoiled it for me.... :p
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,600 Senior Member
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/03/mayor-pete-buttigieg-christian-right-2020-democratic-primary-trump-column/3342767002/

    Here's an article on his deep faith. If nothing else this guy knows the right things to say. He will be a formidable candidate.

    One of his recent speeches pointed out how out of touch he really is with the population. He claimed that most people aren't concerned about or afraid of socialism. Around 82% of the population says otherwise. 
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,606 Senior Member
    If the owners of the Democrat Party decide that Buttigieg will be the nominee, he will be the nominee. When they make their decision, the DNC rules will be changed to help facilitate that, the media will be given their marching orders, and the street-level apparatchik will dominate the social media discussions. Right now, there are still other prospects they are considering for 2020, but most of them will disqualify themselves, in one fashion or another. Buttigieg is probably the cleverest of the bunch, and many of his 'negatives' have already been aired, without causing any significant harm, within the ultra-left constituency. This is his audition, and he is doing well.

    Even if he cannot win the nomination or the general election (which is not out of the question), he will likely be a rising star for the future. He can relocate to a place that will elect him to the Senate, like Hilary did, a resume similar to Obama's can be concocted for him, and a media blitz can propel him onto the national scene. No one can really attack him, without being branded a bigot, which is certain death for any aspiring Democrat politician, and a terrifying prospect to all of the milquetoast Republicans. Trump can hit him hard, because he is Trump, and he has already been branded as a bigot, anyway, so he can probably beat him, if he doesn't go too far.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,606 Senior Member
    The mechanics of Buttgieg's 'meteoric rise' are starting to come together, this past week. He is getting more coverage in the media, and his three mainstream credentials are being highlighted: (1) served in the military, (2) Rhodes scholar (nobody knows what that means, except that he is smart), and (3) he is competing well in the fundraising (all from small donations, of course - aren't they always for a dark horse?). This is, of course, meant to suggest grass roots support, which always suggests a 'one-ness' with the average citizen.

    Basically, the Obama formula that was being prepared for Bozo O'Rourke is now being adapted to Buttgieg, should he continue to look better to the Democrat mainstream. This tempts his Democrite opponents to gay-bash, but they don't dare. So, they will wait for some stupid Republican to do it, so they can ride to Buttgieg's rescue, in the hope that they can spin the whole thing into something that will highlight their own wonderfulness more than Buttgieg's victimhood.

    If Buttgieg's fundraising surpasses Camela Harris, he's the man. He's nipping at the heels of Bozo, right now.
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,659 Senior Member
    edited April 15 #23
    I can say from direct experience many of the people I know, which obviously tend to be more "coastal urban yuppies/hipsters" are all in on Buttigieg. A number have sent in donations already. I think there's a decent chance that Pete pushes out Betto and takes over his lane since he appeals to many of the same people, but with much more credibility IMHO and a better message. Harris will be tough though since she is the "Clinton" of this race. The "it's her turn" candidate that has more party establishment support, and checks the right demographic boxes, but also like Hillary most actual voters don't really like her that much. 

    Lots of people seem to be for Biden, but I think that's a real mistake. The case for Biden is that he's tough and can go toe to toe with Trump. That's a bad strategy against Trump though. No one is a better Trump than Trump, and playing on his turf is a surefire way to lose. Trump has to be praying (if he ever actually does that) that Biden gets in an wins the nomination. 
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 8,570 Senior Member
    They say that Biden is already the parties choice.Nobody wants to talk about how dirty they did Bernie in the last election.  Anyone not the "old guards" choice will be treated the same.
    Personally I do not like Trump, but it is hard to argue with a guy that does his best to keep his word on campaign promises.  Old uncle joe will run out to the back porch, let loose both barrels and hope like hell his opponent runs away.
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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 19,288 Senior Member
    I can't think of anyone worse than Kamela "microstamping" Harris! I had enough of her when she was head of the Commiefornia Ministry of Justice.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,606 Senior Member
    Biden is the backup, in case the youngsters blow each other up. His best bet is to stay out, and talk everybody into drafting him to come in and heal the split caused by the socialists 'out-lefting' the so-called progressives.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 3,457 Senior Member
    Its kind of like trying to produce a comprehensive prediction of consistent roulette wheel results over 90 day period.
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