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VarmintmistVarmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member
edited May 2019 in Hunting #1
Stumbled across a box of this, about 10 boxes in fact, for 23 bucks/10. Not unreasonable. It seems to work.  Took a couple with the nitro turkey to get the scope close, then 2 more to firm these up.

The scope is 1 moa clicks so I clicked 2 LEFT on and backed up.
Better but still left. Shot from a sitting position, no rest so I figured it might be me, so I backed up
Pattern still a bit right, but none were not OK. I put 3 LEFT on it and called it a day. That group to the right should be closer to the center, but all of the targets I shot would bring home a bird.

MUCH more comfortable with these at longer range than the Nitro Turkey. Would they work? Yep and I am not throwing them away. But on the 45 yard XR there are about 70 holes in the first 8 in circle, with the NT, there were 24. Most of my shooting will be under 40, probably under 25 if history repeats itself. But it is nice to have the ability there.

Specs again. 870 20 ga Ute, Phoenix Tech stock (33.00 optics planet) a Mesa Tactical adapter (870 12 ga stock to 20ga receiver 23.00 OP)   and Tru Glow gobble stopper choke tube and FO sight combo, (30)Bushnell TRS-25 red dot (56, Amazon) Aimtech saddle mount (45,Amazon)



It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.

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  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    All of what you observed mirrors what I see with the 12 GA version of the Long Beard.  The performance jump from Nitro turkey is pretty impressive and the price, while higher, is definitely worth paying.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member
    Yep. You would have to show me a hole in the paper at 45 to get me to even think about spending 10 bucks a shot. I cant call well, if fact I think most of the time the gobblers and jakes just come in the see "What the heck is wrong with her??" but I dont need to hit them across the field.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Yeah, I can’t bring myself to commit to the TSS/super pricey rounds given what I’ve seen so far from Long Beard.  Maybe I’ll try a box of TSS to see if they live up to the hype or it’s just law of diminishing returns.  

    Oh, and what is the constriction on your choke?
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,852 Senior Member
    That Long Beard will kill a turkey at 45, let's see some results now
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    edited May 2019 #6
    Just a tip for correcting that right bias of the pattern and maximizing your distance:

    - Zero your scope at very close range, 10 or 15 yards, and use extreme trigger concentration like you would want for long range rifle.  The goal is a virtual slug hole dead center in azimuth to determine - to the gnats ass - that the load will hit right in line the head/neck if a bird is in close.   

    - Then, adjust the zero about 1" high and dead center at this range for a sure kill on a still bird in close while offering enough loft on the pattern to compensate for minor downrange drop.  *DO NOT* settle for anything less than a perfectly centered pattern at this range.

    - Confirm pattern effect at expected distance intervals and discern your max effective pattern range.

    - Go kill a turkey.

    I use this zero method every year when I mount the scope for turkey zeroing.  Once it's confirmed good at 10-15 yards, I know my current load will get it done out to 45+ yards.  Definitely think twice before going that far with a 20 GA if it's smaller shot or a slow payload.

    While I do not make it a point to take 40+ yard shots, the oft' repeated folklore that #6 lead shot from a 12 GA doesn't have enough energy to kill that far is hogwash.  I dropped a mature Tom stone cold dead at a laser-confirmed 52 yards with the 2 oz./1200 fps/#6 Long Beard 3.5" 12 GA shell last year.  A few years prior, a fog-corrupted laser rangefinder reading led to me accidentally making another 50+ yard kill.  Again, not recommended that you make a point to shoot that far for other reasons, but lack of energy is not one of them.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    That Long Beard will kill a turkey at 45, let's see some results now
    If the birds and I can get on the same side of the valley, you will.
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Posts: 8,305 Senior Member
    Six-Gun said:

    Oh, and what is the constriction on your choke?
    .565
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • Six-GunSix-Gun Posts: 8,155 Senior Member
    Nice.  Clearly, it’s holding a lethal shot count in the vital zone as far you’ll need it.
    Accuracy: because white space between bullet holes drives me insane.
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