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CaliFFL

Smallish female...I gotta be putting a dent in the pack. 

Six-Gun

Nice job!

Zee

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The fawns are starting to drop. So, we are vigilantly keeping our eyes out for yotes. 

A nearby ranch has trapped 30+ yotes in the last 2 months. 

CaliFFL

Wow, 30?!? The deer should be thanking you guys. At least until fall 😁

Linefinder

30 in 2 months! Wow!!!

And I thought I'd run up a high score on squirrels eating my cherry tree this month.

I'm humbled.

Mike

earlyagain

Im suspicious that 30 barely made a dent, let alone 3..

CaliFFL

We have wolves that keep the coyote population in check. I’ve never gotten close to trapping 20 in a season, with sets spread over miles. 3 is likely half the pack. 

earlyagain

Makes sense. Its my understanding that wolves kill coyotes at every opportunity.

Jayhawker

It's science...the more coyotes you kill, the more pups they produce...as their population decreases they produce larger litters...

And Early is right...wolves don't tolerate coyotes, coyotes don't tolerate fox....

CaliFFL

Jayhawker said:

It's science...the more coyotes you kill, the more pups they produce...as their population decreases they produce larger litters...

Yes, but if you kill enough females, you'll have less litters even if they are bigger

Linefinder

A rancher I once shot pdogs for, said "Kill the pups. You've stopped 5 years of digging. Kill the mature Mom....maybe  2 years. Shoot all of them you can, but shooting the pups solves more problems for me."

Hard fact.

Mike

Zee

Another ranch said they’ve trapped 80 in 3 months. 

RugerFan

Zee said:

Another ranch said they’ve trapped 80 in 3 months. 

Is that number "normal"?

Zee

RugerFan said:

Zee said:

Another ranch said they’ve trapped 80 in 3 months. 

Is that number "normal"?

The fact that ranches are complaining about a low to zero fawn crop last year and heavily trapping and shooting yotes this year makes me think it’s relatively higher than normal. 

CaliFFL

Coyote density varies between 2-4 yotes per square mile, depending on locale. You can calculate a rough density. It will give some idea if the population is higher than normal. 

Jayhawker

CaliFFL said:

Jayhawker said:

It's science...the more coyotes you kill, the more pups they produce...as their population decreases they produce larger litters...

Yes, but if you kill enough females, you'll have less litters even if they are bigger

The point being...you will never shoot or trap them out...coyote are stupid smart, get educated quickly and seldom make the same mistake twice...even during cyclic population bottoming, they manage...even if it takes eating their young..

RugerFan

Zee said:

RugerFan said:

Zee said:

Another ranch said they’ve trapped 80 in 3 months. 

Is that number "normal"?

The fact that ranches are complaining about a low to zero fawn crop last year and heavily trapping and shooting yotes this year makes me think it’s relatively higher than normal. 


Used to hear them at night here quite often. A few years ago I noticed I didn't hear them and I started seeing rabbits again. 

Someone said parvo killed most coyote around here.

Now I'm starting to see coyotes fairly often when I'm driving. Still.dont hear them though.

CaliFFL

Oh, I get that. I don't expect elimination. I expect pack reduction and for them to learn that my property is a death trap (literally) and they'd be best served by hunting elsewhere. I hadn't seen a yote on the cameras for two weeks, then I caught the one pictured above. There's only does and fawns on the cameras since. Good sign. 

Jayhawker

That works and probably the best you can hope for...glad it's working for you...

earlyagain

An epidemic of rodent disease can stifle the population.