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Remember this guy in FL?

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  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,774 Senior Member
    Having not seen the video that the jury saw, and having read the multiple news articles pertaining to this incident and past incidents involving this man, I feel the jury got this one correct.  I do not have all evidence like the jury had though.  I can only go based on what I have read about this incident.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    I remember this well.

    I was and remain unsure of the right or wrong of this incident. I have a personal prejudice against people inclined towards physical force expecting their opponent of smaller size to respond bare handed. Rather than let said prejudice sway me, I became reluctant to commit a judgement. I absolutely trust the judgement of the jury. For me, case closed.
  • AccipiterAccipiter New Member Posts: 898 Senior Member
    this is a good argument for not sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong.
    Apparently free thought is punished, and conformity is required, while peckerless cowards run the show.

    ECHO...ECHO....echo...

    Ah......One savors the hypocrisy!

    Karma.........It’s a bitch.
  • rbsivleyrbsivley Senior Member The Heart of DixiePosts: 1,259 Senior Member
    Just because you have a gun doesn't mean you should always use it.
    Randy

    Rank does not concur privileges. It imposes responsibility. Author unknow
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,746 Senior Member
    edited August 2019 #6
    Accipiter said:
    this is a good argument for not sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong.
    A better argument for not using a gun unless you're facing a possible threat of deadly force or great bodily harm.  Officious gun toter who apparently thought he had the right to shoot another for parking in a handicapped zone.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Between Ft Lauderdale and MiamiPosts: 12,552 Senior Member
    I followed this case as close as possible without being involved.  Both sides embelished what happened to make themselves sound right.  Crump attempting to make it a racial issue was just wrong.  Did he think he was going to get stomped if he didnt shoot? I think so, would he have?  maybe.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    It's an even better argument for not inserting yourself in matters of trivial importance when you are a concealed  weapon carrier.  You have a MUCH higher moral obligation to remain neutral and be an observer ONLY.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    I followed this case as close as possible without being involved.  Both sides embelished what happened to make themselves sound right.  Crump attempting to make it a racial issue was just wrong.  Did he think he was going to get stomped if he didnt shoot? I think so, would he have?  maybe.
    The case could be made that Crump believed that because the decedent's immediate action was to violence without any discourse preceding it that the decedent's follow up actions, if any, would be the same or intensified--especially given Crump's definite position of disadvantage.

    I think a display of the firearm at the ready was more appropriate and shots made if the decedent refused to disengage and re-approached. Maybe.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,772 Senior Member
    It's been awhile so let me get all the player right.
    Markeis McGlockton is the deceased, Michael Drejka is the shooter and Benjamin Crump is a second attorney for the family.
    My opinion hasn't changed about this case. You don't shoot someone who is backing up at the sight of your firearm, particularly if said person is himself unarmed (beside being a big guy)
    Drejka initiated the confrontation. He said it himself -- because he has a pet peeve about people parking in a handicap spot when they're not handicap. The confrontation just went downhill from there.
    He went from parking lot monitor (not his job and no lives being threatened) to convicted felon because he had to have his way over a parking space. It's really sad all around.
    If you carry concealed, you have an obligation to be more responsible than your average citizen. You literally carry the power of life and death.
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

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