Shoot, don't shoot

rbsivley

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nebraska-woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-arrested-on-assault-charge-after-shooting-fleeing-shoplifting-suspect

I carry every day, but I ain't going to shoot anybody over two bottles of wine.

Linefinder

Hell, if it was legal to shoot somebody over swiping a bottle of wine, I'd have no in-laws left.

Mike

Jayhawker

Someone didn't pay attention in her class...

jaywapti

If he is running away, not poising any threat, than you are not justified in using deadly force. She was wrong.

JAY

Gene L

A bottle of wine isn't worth a man's life.  Or a shot in the arm.  She was wrong and will probably pay the price.

earlyagain

Grapes of wrath?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Spk

earlyagain said:

Grapes of wrath?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Please! No more wine jokes. It could have a Ripple effect.

😁

Buford

As far as I'm concerned shooting a thief should be encouraged and legal.

Gene L

Not unless he puts your life in danger.  Back when I started LEO, you could shoot a fleeing felon, like a thief who was offering no threat.  And we did.  Then came the SCOTUS decision, back in 1989 or so in the case Graham v. Connor,  which as I recall was a LEO acting under color of law.  You can read the details. What it boils down to is Can't shoot an unarmed fleeing felon for a non violent crime.  I'm pretty sure this applies to civilians, too.

If you can get in serious trouble for shooting a fleeing, unarmed FELON, imagine if you shot a fleeing misdemeanant.

As a civilian, I wouldn't kill a person if he could tote off my furniture but offered no physical threat.  Shows what could be referred to in court language as "an abandoned heart.".

Spk

Jayhawker said:

Someone didn't pay attention in her class...

Most folks don't pay alot of attention in class, they seem more preoccupied with being somewhere else. Most of the ones I see have that, "Let's just get to the range so you can sign me off" look on their face. You can only do so much in a 6 hour class. Kinda hard to instill good judgement with that sort of time frame.

Worst of all, some walk out with that, "Now I'm a crime fighter" look on their face.

Here's my thoughts on judgement (to paraphrase Jeff Cooper)

"Owning a firearm doesn't make you a crime fighter anymore than owning a guitar makes you a musician."

Her heart was in the right place but she used poor judgement.