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  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,174 Senior Member
    Well worth seeing. Historically accurate. If you're not somewhat familiar with the battle, wikipedia Battle of Midway. There's a lot going on in this movie, and without some prior knowledge of the order of battle, it could be a bit confusing. A LOT happened in just a few hours.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,814 Senior Member
    edited November 2019 #33
    I love WW2 movies. I've got one I purchased online, Bataan, which I saw as a kid and wanted to see again.  It doesn't often appear on TCM, if at all.  My favorite WW2 movie is "They Were Expendable," which I also saw as a kid, and recorded when it was on TCM. A very sad movie of loss based on the very early days of WW .  Made in 1945 by Ford.  John Wayne got second billing to Robert Montgomery, who got top billing because he HAD served in WW2. But Wayne was clearly the star.

    Don't particularly like the morale-boosting movies made during WW 2, and don't like the noir WW2 movies made in the 60s. I didn't particularly like Hell is for Heroes because it had a totally failed scene with Bob Newhart doing a comedy telephone routine.  Why, the director did this, I don't know.

    I saw "Dunkirk" but couldn't keep the characters in mind because they all looked so similar.  I had to read the reviews to fully understand it.

    WW2 wasn't my war, exactly, but I grew up around a lot of WW2 vets and absorbed an interest in that war until mine came along. 

    I am very confused as to why there are so few movies about Korea.
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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,020 Senior Member
    Seems the professional critics are mostly bashing the dialogue, which is about the norm, since most movie critics are wannabe script-writers. 

    Mike
    The critic I was listening to today said it sucked, then admitted he had not seen the movie, just the trailer
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  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,898 Senior Member
    Saw it today, pretty decent. I really liked the first one also, but this one was good. The trailers stunk horribly of Pearl Harbor, but was pleasantly surprised. Brave men with b-ball sized nuts flying planes that were not up to the standards of the Japanese. 
    That victory must have brought so much hope to the Americans in 1942. I hope Hollywood keeps making war movies.
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,020 Senior Member
    Yep...this would be an awesome way to do the Battle of Leyte Gulf ...

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  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,356 Senior Member
    I watched the last several minutes of a documentary on PBS today about a 2015 expedition to the site of where Yamamoto's plane crashed when he was shot down.

    Hard to believe the wreckage still exists. 

    A gold crown was discovered at the site in 2015. It's thought it might belong to Yamamoto. However, his still living grandson won't provide DNA. 
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,769 Senior Member
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,174 Senior Member
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,769 Senior Member
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    Maybe so, but, there is a lot that goes on in carrier operations that they probably do not understand.
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,994 Senior Member
    edited November 2019 #41
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    If the critics had their way, there'd be some revisionist history going on -- female combat pilots, men cowardly hiding under tables as the woman saved the day.

    You know if they want to make a movie like that they should make one about these fine ladies.
    There's an important story to be told here. A story that's been mostly forgotten.

    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,020 Senior Member
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    Assuming the critic actually watched the movie...
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  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 1,898 Senior Member
    Gene, I'd love to see Spielberg do a Korean War movie.

    My favorite Korean War movie is the Bridges at Toko-Ri with William Holden.
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,814 Senior Member
    edited November 2019 #44
    Saw it, but had a bad ending.  I saw another with Aldo Ray,  wasn't much good either.  Those are the only ones I remember.  I think the brief joy of winning WW2 and briefly having the atomic bomb, the expectation of no more war was acute, America was shocked by the actions of a small Asian country, for which we were not militarily ready for. And which we did not win. 
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  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 3,994 Senior Member
    bellcat said:
    Gene, I'd love to see Spielberg do a Korean War movie.

    My favorite Korean War movie is the Bridges at Toko-Ri with William Holden.
    If Spielberg did a Korean war movie, it would be some kind of escape from North Korea love story that makes you feel good about both the American and North Korean people (That's people -- not the government!). Afterall, you can't prove every single North Korean hated all Americans.
    Speaking of Korean war movies, don't forget M*A*S*H.
    Like it or hate it, it was very successful. It spawned a TV show about the Korean war that lasted longer than the active hostilities over there did. 🤣 (Musing at the long running show -- not the war)
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • kansashunterkansashunter Senior Member Posts: 1,849 Senior Member
    I wanted to go see it but it hasn't worked out yet. I watched a movie on Netflix about chosin reservoir I think it was called. It put Eisenhower in a bad light.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,335 Senior Member
    Just got back from seeing it - DAMN!!

    I think any critic who would fault this movie for an overabundance of CGI is worthy of a  bit of harsh criticism themselves, as there seems to be a bit of a critical shortage of B-26's, Zeros, TBM's, SBD's, big gun battleships, converted battleship aircraft carriers. . .

    My Grandpa joined Doolittle's 17th Bomb Group in mid-'43, well after they switched to B-26's and transferred to the North Africa/Mediterranean theater.  Seeing the kicking mule patch of his 95th Bombardment Squadron on the big screen pretty much made my year.
    WWJMBD?

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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 1,783 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    If the critics had their way, there'd be some revisionist history going on -- female combat pilots, men cowardly hiding under tables as the woman saved the day.



    You forgot the brave galent (or gaylent) broken hearted gay aviator who witnesest his wingman being shot down and straffed in his parachute by a cowardly **** pilot. His wingman was his lover and always had his rear. He managed to keep his composure in his damaged smoking plane despit being wonded. With tears in his eyes remembering their last embrace, he took revenge on that coward by shooting him with his1911 because his guns were jamed and out of ammo after shooting down six enemy planes and bombing the last **** carrier.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,245 Senior Member
    Watched it last night with the kiddo.  Pretty good flick, great actors, and really showed the courage of our fighting men. 

    Well done.
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    NN said:
    Airdale Admiral I know who has been a Carrier Captain, CAG, Squadron CO ect;  said the movie was very good and very realistic.
    Can't be true. The movie critics think it sucks.

    Mike
    If the critics had their way, there'd be some revisionist history going on -- female combat pilots, men cowardly hiding under tables as the woman saved the day.

    You know if they want to make a movie like that they should make one about these fine ladies.
    There's an important story to be told here. A story that's been mostly forgotten.

    My parents built Liberty cargo ships during WW2. My Father welded while my Mother operated a huge torch cutting out the pieces. She was called "Beulah the burner". Another group of WW2 women only received veteran status/benefits recently for those still living. They were the Women Air service Pilots (WASPs). 38 of them died during the war ferrying military aircraft. 

  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member

    bellcat said:
    Gene, I'd love to see Spielberg do a Korean War movie.

    My favorite Korean War movie is the Bridges at Toko-Ri with William Holden.
    One of my favorite movies period. The first time I saw it in 1960 at age 8 I was totally shocked by the surprisingly realistic ending.
  • BamaakIIBamaakII Posts: 290 Member
    edited November 2019 #52
    Very good movie.  I thought the script was a little to "Hollywood".  Visually superior to the first but the acting and script was better in the first IMO.  also to much time spent on lead up events, pearl harbor, Marshall islands, coral sea and Dolittle raid.  Crammed to much into a couple hours.
  • sgtrock21sgtrock21 Senior Member Posts: 1,933 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    Saw it, but had a bad ending.  I saw another with Aldo Ray,  wasn't much good either.  Those are the only ones I remember.  I think the brief joy of winning WW2 and briefly having the atomic bomb, the expectation of no more war was acute, America was shocked by the actions of a small Asian country, for which we were not militarily ready for. And which we did not win. 

    Wars we do not win are not popular. A cease fire is a tie.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,814 Senior Member
    I wanted to go see it but it hasn't worked out yet. I watched a movie on Netflix about chosin reservoir I think it was called. It put Eisenhower in a bad light.
    Eisenhower, or McArthur?  Truman fired McArthur.  Eisenhower was president who oversaw the armistice.   I saw the movie McArthur, which was about the Korean War.  Possibly the same movie.  It was financed by Sun Young Moon.
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