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My boy doubled on deer yesterday!

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 24,503 Senior Member
Took my boy hunting yesterday evening to a friends place. It was January 10th, 80 degrees, and we were wearing shorts!!

We set up in the same dilapidated Blind I shot my deer with last week using the CVA Scout Pistol. 
A storm front was moving in but I hoped it would miss us or we’d beat it. Wrong on both counts. 
The clouds rolled over us as the sun set. Bringing thunder and lightning as light faded and deer approached the field. I willed them to hurry up and cross the property line as rain drops began to fall. The compromised state of the blind with one side missing and holes in the roof soon cost us our dry state. But, the deer had crossed into the pasture and we were working hard to get a shot. 
A big doe was blocked by that pole on the right of the above picture. The SAME pole that had given me trouble last week. It’s like they knew!  Finally, as rain began to fall harder, a yearling to the left of the pole turned broadside and I told my boy to take that one. 
Looking directly over his right shoulder like a good spotter, I watched his shot drop the deer in it’s tracks with a cloud of mud and dust at 88 yards!  The big doe ran to the left and stopped in the middle of the field. 
We reloaded and I moved the Spec-Rest to the blind opening on the left. I located the doe in the dim light with minutes of legal time remaining. Oriented the rifle and told my boy to take her as well.  At the 130 yard shot, I saw dirt kick up behind her and she lept into the like a Springbok pronging. Hit the ground running and collapse after a 30 yard death race. 
Pouring rain now, we high-fived, grabbed our gear, and sprinted for the house. Making it just in time for the hail to start falling. We decided to wait and retrieve the deer after the hail storm. 


I shot my first deer at the age of 13 after hunting them since I was 6. My boy is 13 and with that double.......has shot a total of 13 deer to date!  Thirteen by the age of my first!  That’s four so far this year. And......the season ain’t over! He’s becoming quite good. 
I am a proud father. 

On our way to the ranch to hunt, he asked if he could try a Monster (energy drink). I told him, if he short a deer this evening, he could have a Monster. But, I didn’t want him jacked up on liquid speed before the shot. Well, he got his drink afterwards. 

"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    .260 Remington
    140gr Hornady A-Max 
    Muzzle Velocity: 2,615 fps
    88/130 yards broadside
    Heart Shot x2

    Entrance Deer #1

    Deer #2

    Heart Shot 
    (Deer #1 Bottom / Deer #2 Top)

    Exit
    Deer #1

    Deer #2

    The boy is decidedly deadly. There was no heart left in either deer. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,287 Senior Member
    VERY proud of the boy AND dad for his work bringing him up right!  Quite the accomplishment!
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,003 Senior Member
    Bad enough I have to be jealous of you but now i’m jealous of a 13 y/o :D
    congrats to the both of you. Fine shooting by the young man!!
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    Hell, I’m jealous of him!  😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    I like that he doesn’t even question the gun I put in his hands.

    He’d never fired that .260 Remington before. I just let him dry fire it a couple times before we went hunting. Just like he did with the .308 Win on his last deer. No questions. Just dry fire and go. 

    I have to believe this comes from a good understanding of the fundamentals. With that understanding, you can shoot any gun. 

    There is no advanced shooting. Just doing the basics well. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,383 Senior Member
    Zee said:

    I have to believe this comes from a good understanding of the fundamentals. With that understanding, you can shoot any gun. 

    There is no advanced shooting. Just doing the basics well. 
    DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

    Pretty much what I tell anybody who comes to me with questions of "Should I buy this?" or "Should I modify that?"  It's all proper grip/position, use of sights, and trigger control.  Get all of that down, have a gun that's mechanically good to go, that kinda-sorta fits you like you're a member of the same species of animal that designed it, and things like grip shape and trigger weight mean little more than SQUAT.

    Consequently, I worry a lot more about reliable mechanical functionality and serviceability of design than I do crap like "finesse".  If you need finesse to hit things, your technique probably sucks. 

    Glad to see that "Baby Carlos" is coming along.  With all that quality meat he's stacking up in the freezer, you should probably feed him at least one McDonald's hamburger just so he can have the well-rounded life experience. :p
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,873 Senior Member
    Ive had some of my closest encounters with deer during poor weather. The natural break up of consistent light, like glaring sun mixed with sudden shade have surrounded my closest meetings though.
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,133 Senior Member
    Congratulations to you both.
    At your boys age, I had never even held a real gun yet. He has become quite the shooter.
    Does he process his own deer yet?
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,925 Senior Member
    He is definitely finding the "spot" on deer to get the crosshairs on, nicely done, good habits are are to break too.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,085 Senior Member
    Another "nicely done!" To the both of you.....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    edited January 2020 #12
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    I have to believe this comes from a good understanding of the fundamentals. With that understanding, you can shoot any gun. 

    There is no advanced shooting. Just doing the basics well. 
    Glad to see that "Baby Carlos" is coming along.  With all that quality meat he's stacking up in the freezer, you should probably feed him at least one McDonald's hamburger just so he can have the well-rounded life experience. :p
    I’ve given all the whitetail deer we’ve shot this year away.  All 8 of them!
    I’m spoiled. We only eat Axis and pig for the most part. 🤓
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,287 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I like that he doesn’t even question the gun I put in his hands.

    He’d never fired that .260 Remington before. I just let him dry fire it a couple times before we went hunting. Just like he did with the .308 Win on his last deer. No questions. Just dry fire and go. 

    I have to believe this comes from a good understanding of the fundamentals. With that understanding, you can shoot any gun. 

    There is no advanced shooting. Just doing the basics well. 
    Exactly!!!
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    He is definitely finding the "spot" on deer to get the crosshairs on, nicely done, good habits are are to break too.
    I tease him that I’m mad at him for ruining the edible heart every time. 

    Even though that’s where I taught him to aim. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Congratulations to you both.
    At your boys age, I had never even held a real gun yet. He has become quite the shooter.
    Does he process his own deer yet?
    My dad took me hunting and let me shoot and get guns. Even though he wasn’t really a hunter or a shooter. 
    It was a family thing we did together. 

    I respect him for doing those things for me because that’s what I liked and neither of us knew what we were doing. 

    My dad has only shot two deer and an elk in his life. A Muley and Elk with his brothers in Wyoming and a Muley with me in Montana. 
    All the other times we hunted together, it was about me and my experiences for him. A truly unselfish man. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,806 Senior Member
    Extra special hunt, hey.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,383 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    He is definitely finding the "spot" on deer to get the crosshairs on, nicely done, good habits are are to break too.
    I tease him that I’m mad at him for ruining the edible heart every time. 

    Even though that’s where I taught him to aim. 
    You do realize he's gonna "do Dad a favor" and start plugging them in the head some day?
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    edited January 2020 #18
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    He is definitely finding the "spot" on deer to get the crosshairs on, nicely done, good habits are are to break too.
    I tease him that I’m mad at him for ruining the edible heart every time. 

    Even though that’s where I taught him to aim. 
    You do realize he's gonna "do Dad a favor" and start plugging them in the head some day?
    My rancher friend keeps telling me to make the boy shoot them in the head because that’s how he shoots all his deer. I’ve watched my rancher friend, who is a pretty good shot, screw up two head shots this year and wound deer. One of which I had to kill a week later (Dead Man) and a Doe that I kept getting on game cameras after he wounded her but that I never could find and dispatch. She died of her wounds after a week. 

    So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,287 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    He is definitely finding the "spot" on deer to get the crosshairs on, nicely done, good habits are are to break too.
    I tease him that I’m mad at him for ruining the edible heart every time. 

    Even though that’s where I taught him to aim. 
    You do realize he's gonna "do Dad a favor" and start plugging them in the head some day?
    My rancher friend keeps telling me to make the boy shoot them in the head because that’s how he shoots all his deer. I’ve watched my rancher friend, who is a pretty good shot, screw up two head shots this year and wound deer. One of which I had to kill a week later (Dead Man) and a Doe that I kept getting on game cameras after he wounded her but that I never could find and dispatch. She died of her wounds after a week. 

    So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Good for you.  I’ve only taken one headshot in my life and I did it because I was hunting something else and an opportunity for deer came my way while I’m holding a gun loaded with a bullet unsuitable for the game but fine for the headshot offered.  

    The target cooperated and I had great confidence in the rifle accuracy.  A 45grain HP will do the job but there’s precious little margin for error.
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,383 Senior Member
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,287 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    I don’t think so.  Dad runs a pretty tight ship in the Faceless family.  😂
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,133 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    I don’t think so.  Dad runs a pretty tight ship in the Faceless family.  😂
    GunNut said:
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    I don’t think so.  Dad runs a pretty tight ship in the Faceless family.  😂
    Much unlike that other guy that used to be here that caught his shirt on fire doing an experiment.  But in his defense, it was for science.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    GunNut said:
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    I don’t think so.  Dad runs a pretty tight ship in the Faceless family.  😂
    GunNut said:
    Bigslug said:
    Zee said:

    . . .So no........head shots are a specialty shot that I take only under certain circumstances and conditions. I am not ready to put that pressure and possible bad result on the young man, yet. 

    Oh, I know head shots are a bad idea.  You know that head shots are a bad idea.  And your kid probably knows head shots are a bad idea.

    HOWEVER, I do have a mean/mischievous streak that developed when I was a little older than your kid.  If I was repeatedly making heart shots, maybe getting a little cocky about it, and getting ribbed by my dad about blowing up heart meat, I'd probably brain one on my own initiative just so I could say "NOW will you shut up about the heart meat??"

    Beware the machinations of a small boy's mind.  ;)
    I don’t think so.  Dad runs a pretty tight ship in the Faceless family.  😂
    Much unlike that other guy that used to be here that caught his shirt on fire doing an experiment.  But in his defense, it was for science.
    I recall his saying, “$20 is $20”
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    A new scope was delivered today. That .260 Remington Rifle will be getting new glass. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,133 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    A new scope was delivered today. That .260 Remington Rifle will be getting new glass. 
    What did you get?  Enquiring minds and all
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member


    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 6,287 Senior Member
    Wow!!!!!  😍
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    Outside of the H59 reticle, the CCH is my second favorite. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,085 Senior Member
    I've made some head shots on deer...while effective..they're ugly...very ugly...I prefer not to do that again
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,503 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    I've made some head shots on deer...while effective..they're ugly...very ugly...I prefer not to do that again
    I don’t mind taking them when I need/want to. Conditions must be right, though. 
    I don’t like taking them just because I don’t learn a damn thing from them in regards to Bullet/terminal performance. 

    They are kinda too simple and effective when done right. The can be definitive or disastrous. 

    I prefer body shots when I’m researching terminal performance. I prefer head shots when I’m just trying to get the job done. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 7,570 Senior Member
    The enjoyment from being together, and the pride of watching him grow and develop is priceless.  I am happy!  Good Job Dad!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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