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My first ever Double Barrel....it is foxy

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  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,410 Senior Member
    I have a fondness for those, I have held a couple that were more utilitarian in stock pattern, but they had cracked receivers, wall hangers only, a perfect grouse gun if there ever was one, I am stunned, you have outdone yourself once again.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    Scott Thanks.
    This is the double I literally   waited decades to find....that once in a lifetime gun.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,410 Senior Member
    Scott Thanks.
    This is the double I literally   waited decades to find....that once in a lifetime gun.
    I know what you are saying, I was so stoked to have one in my hands and they were for sale at a good price, big let down when they had cracks in the receivers. 
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 567 Senior Member
    Hope you enjoy the new acquisition. Could you post some more pictures when you have time? RST, and B&P make some good shot shells ,especially for some of the older shotguns . What does it weigh 6.5lbs? Hope you enjoy
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,802 Senior Member
    Beautiful shotgun.. 👍
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    J R. According to one of the pamphlets I saw right around 5 3/4 pounds.

    I think I've posted most angles.
    Never took so many pictures of a gun.

    For you though I hung upside down to show the side to side transition......if there is one.

    Sorry Al.


  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 567 Senior Member
    Beautiful gun hope you enjoy. Have you patterned it yet?
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    edited June 20 #39
    The gun was designed as a skeet upland game gun.
    I haven't shot it yet.
    I am waiting on what they call a card to see the exact configuration when shipped.

    It will be going out soon.
    I plan to thoroughly enjoy it.
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 567 Senior Member
    Looking forward to see how she shoots.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    edited June 20 #41
    Looking forward to see how she shoots.
    Me too.

    I have not missed a thing I've picked up and pointed at though.....of course no ammo was involved yet either.

    The year after this they were called either the SP or SPE grade upland and skeet....depending on extractors.

    Did find that single trigger was quite the upgrade.




  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    I received my card and it leaves more questions than answers.

    This gun was in the first ten produced. The full in the grip which this has  is quite unusual.

    All cards I looked at have a myriad of details this is almost devoid especially in areas like who its for, shipping ,order number,etc.


  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Is there a date?

    My interest is two fold.
    1) how old is the gun?
    2)how old are white spacers?

    Was that type of grain popular pre war?

    Really when it comes to special order features. People might have paid for things completely off the radar.

    I think when you're pulling the triggers, it won't matter, and not knowing has its own intrigue.......
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,752 Senior Member
    edited June 22 #44
    I see it left the factory full and full...is it still that way or did someone in the past open them?

    Back in those days, full was really tight...I'm thinking someone was shooting handicap trap, live pigeon or waterfowl...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    edited June 22 #45
    There is no date on the card.
    The flyer above is from 1934 and the first of these started 6 of 32

    No idea on the spacers but the wood is feather crotch walnut.
    Not something you see often and then only on a very high grade gun.

    I missed where you were going when I started to answer...sorry.

    I'm really thinking it was an upper level employees gun.

  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Does the 14 mean 14"LOP???

    Must fit good if your laser on every time you shoulder it.

    I'd have to double check, but I think Federal still makes periodic runs of paper hull loads.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    Mike yes the 14 is LOP.
    I'm not sure on that yet Scott reason being it also lists 28 for barrel length it is 26 1/4 at least now.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,752 Senior Member
    edited June 22 #48
    I wish that gun could talk...
    Can you take a pic of the n
    muzzles?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    If you tell me what and where nuzzle's are sure
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    Alphabetically I thought they would be just under here


  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    Looks like if they were shortened it was done right.

    Maybe when it was restocked assuming the excellent wood's not original.
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,623 Senior Member
    I think the stock is post-war because of the white-lines. That screams 1950s to me, but I could be wrong.  And 28" on the card is the original bbl length so I believe it's been chopped and it's probably open/open, which would be great for an upland gun. Are the bores real shiny?  The photo looks rough at the nuzzle to me.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    The bores are shiny.
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,721 Senior Member
    No chrome back then. I also think I read the old time forcing cones were bored at a steeper angle for a better gas seal with paper wads. Not a important matter, but interesting trivia.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,752 Senior Member
    If you tell me what and where nuzzle's are sure
    Autocorrect is my worst enema
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,752 Senior Member
    edited June 22 #56
    Anyway...it appears that whomever bobbed those barrels knew what they were about.

    Do you have a choke gauge?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    I don't but I have tomorrow off and a local shop does...I will check.
    I also have an email out to one of the collectors that knows these.
    Hopefully he can opine on the stock.

    The production was very low on these approximately 200 total and IIRC only about 34 were 20 gauge.

    I appreciate everyone's help on this.....far more different than I'd thought.
  • Johnny rebJohnny reb Member Posts: 567 Senior Member
    I see the card shows it as a SP. so it has extractors?  It looks like whoever restocked it done a good job. 
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    JR yes it is finished as an SPE

    One of the board members actually emailed me about the card. His hypothesis was the gun was finished as a customer wanted which could also explain the barrel length discrepancy. 
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,623 Senior Member
    A fine gun.  The stock is worth a lot more than the gun, which was the case with my Parker I sold and traded. White plastic for pistol grip caps didn't exist when this gun was made, so at least that has been replaced.  The stock fitting looks like a very professional job, had fit (so far as I can see) and fitting a stock on a SxS takes a L-O-N-G time.  You can also measure the LOP to see if it's 14". 
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 519 Senior Member
    I did check the chokes.
    The left is right on modified while the right is just a bit tighter than improved.

    Yeah those spacers I'll probably never figure out.

    The cap and buttplate sure look correct vintage to me but that isn't saying much.


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