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centermass556
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Not that I told you so, but....

Not that I told you this was going to happen, it's bigger than that. You need to realize it is happening - it's been happening, it still is happening. right now, as I type this...Take a look at a few open source articles that some how got zero attention.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/25/texas-chinese-wind-farm-national-security-espionage-electrical-grid/
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2020/04/17/chinese-investors-seek-forced-bankruptcy-of-north-texas-developments/
foxbusiness.com/markets/texas-oil-rich-lands-chinese-takeover-weakened-crude-producers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/15/china-is-bargain-hunting-and-western-security-is-at-risk/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brendanahern/2020/03/13/china-market-update-chinese-investors-buy-stocks-while-foreigners-flee/#6537893b7b03
Some of the open source articles go back as far as 2015.
Here is the alarming thing. China uses land buys to gain increasing footholds. They also like to buy land within close proximity to US bases. They recently snatched up close to 150K of acres near the Air Force flight school.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/25/texas-chinese-wind-farm-national-security-espionage-electrical-grid/
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2020/04/17/chinese-investors-seek-forced-bankruptcy-of-north-texas-developments/
foxbusiness.com/markets/texas-oil-rich-lands-chinese-takeover-weakened-crude-producers
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/15/china-is-bargain-hunting-and-western-security-is-at-risk/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brendanahern/2020/03/13/china-market-update-chinese-investors-buy-stocks-while-foreigners-flee/#6537893b7b03
Some of the open source articles go back as far as 2015.
Here is the alarming thing. China uses land buys to gain increasing footholds. They also like to buy land within close proximity to US bases. They recently snatched up close to 150K of acres near the Air Force flight school.
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Politicians, capitolists, etcetera all sell to the highest bidder. For me its not a question of "if." Its a question of the degree of alarm? Im reluctant to cry fire. Maybe to a fault? Maybe not....
Smithfield Foods is a U.S. company that provides more than 40,000 American jobs and partners with thousands of American farmers. The company was founded in Smithfield, Virginia, in 1936 and was acquired by Hong Kong-based WH Group in 2013.
Do you have a link or an online paper of your post content.
I could only find this in Wikipedia about Chamberlain actions.
In the aftermath of Munich, Chamberlain continued to pursue a course of cautious rearmament. He told the Cabinet in early October 1938, "[I]t would be madness for the country to stop rearming until we were convinced that other countries would act in the same way. For the time being, therefore, we should relax no particle of effort until our deficiencies had been made good.
Chamberlain set out to build an interlocking series of defence pacts among the remaining European countries as a means of deterring Hitler from war.[157] He sought an agreement among Britain, France, the USSR, and Poland, whereby the first three would go to the assistance of Poland if her independence were threatened, but Polish mistrust of the Soviet Union caused those negotiations to fail.[157] Instead, on 31 March 1939, Chamberlain informed an approving House of Commons of British and French guarantees that they would lend Poland all possible aid in the event of any action which threatened Polish independence.[158] In the ensuing debate, Eden stated that the nation was now united behind the government.[159] Even Churchill and Lloyd George praised Chamberlain's government for issuing the guarantee to Poland.[160]
The Prime Minister took other steps to deter Hitler from aggression. He doubled the size of the Territorial Army, created a Ministry of Supply to expedite the provision of equipment to the armed forces, and instituted peacetime conscription.[161] The Italian invasion of Albania on 7 April 1939 led to guarantees being given to Greece and Romania.[162] On 17 June 1939, Handley Page received an order for 200 Hampden twin-engined medium bombers, and by 3 September 1939, the chain of radar stations girdling the British coast was fully operational
Chamberlain had disregarded rumours of a Soviet–German "rapprochement" and was dismissive of the publicly announced pact, stating that it in no way affected British obligations toward Poland.[166] On 23 August 1939, Chamberlain had Henderson deliver a letter to Hitler telling him that Britain was fully prepared to comply with its obligations to Poland
No question of him taking the threat of a Polish invasion lightly and nothing about him making fun of the “conspiracy theories” against Hitler and Nazi Germany.
Today the Munich Agreement is widely regarded as a failed act of appeasement, and the term has become "a byword for the futility of appeasing expansionist totalitarian states".[5]
In other words, everyone looked the other way and Hitler took advantage of that. China is quietly doing many of the same things right now. If you choose to poke fun and condescendingly put down other informative posts that is your right, but it doesn’t make you “right.”
There is a ton of info on this out there. You just need to look past Wikipedia before you form an educated opinion
Even the majority of American's at that time favored isolationism. Not that the example to make the point was wrong or inappropriate. Just that a fair and just spotlight on historic people needs complete contemporary context. Churchill's comments about Chamberlain during his first speech as PM should always be remembered.
Appeasement, looking the other way, being weak and taking Hitler too lightly, that was Chamberlain.
I really cant help you anymore but I hope you learn something from this.
Declaration of war: Chamberlain's radio broadcast, 3 September 1939, 11am
I am speaking to you from the cabinet room at 10 Downing Street. This morning the British ambassador in Berlin handed the German government a final note stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.
https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/174143
Events made clear the wisedom and righteousness of resistant force. Creating majority public support.
Which leads us back to the present. Alarmists versus sceptics. Im sceptical. That doesn't mean Im right or even completely convinced that I'm right......
You have still not referenced this post;
And Chamberlain being unprepared for the invasion of Poland.The Munich Agreement was signed in 1938, the United Kingdom, the French Third Republic and the Kingdom of Italy and celebrated by all parties and throughout Europe for keeping the piece.
The declaration of war with Germany was written and broadcast in 1939
Your excellent article, written in 2020.
The Neville Chamberlin biography written and researched 2018/19, possibly?
Hindsight bias
Hindsight bias, also known as the knew-it-all-along phenomenon or creeping determinism, refers to the common tendency for people to perceive events that have already occurred as having been more predictable than they actually were before the events took place.Wikipedia
He was a man of his time, all just barely recovering from the bloody slaughterhouse that was the 1914/18 war.
On the annexation of Austria into Nazi Germany March 1938 (the Anschluss Österreichs) he wrote;
He doubled the size of the territorial army, created a Ministry of Supply to expedite the provision of equipment to the armed forces, and instituted peacetime conscription.
But the game changer for me, by 3 September 1939, the chain of radar stations covering the United Kingdom coast line, was fully operational.
Which of itself enabled the first defeat of the German war machine, first major military campaign fought entirely by air forces.
The Battle of Britain.
I am not attacking you personally and your very defensive, but unfortunately, your just not capable of grasping the Whole Point, the Big Picture. This is a waste of time at this point. No worries. Get some thicker skin and realize not everyone agrees on everything. We obviously don’t, and wont and thats fine.
You have made a broad stroke statement about Chamberlain and Poland which you seem unable to reference.
My questioning of your ability to verify that same statement, and for my part bring to light history that actually happen and not just made up.
This led you to believe that I am very sensitive, I am in need of some thicker skin and to me thinking I have been personally attacked?
I have got that right?