The Martini-Henry rifle was loaded with 85 grains of No 6 (coarse) powder. If that informs your loading means, go for it. BP cartridge powder probably would substitute.
Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
Don't use the regulation load. That gun deserves a gentle caring hand. Same as old guys shoulders. Not to mention 60+ grs of fouling with every shot is a lot of dirt. As long as BP is slightly compressed it shoots safely. Fillers can be used without a problem.
I shot my muzzle loader a couple weeks ago with a 50gr charge. 20grs lighter than my sighted in round ball load. Wasn't as accurate. But my son and I had fun and it was still close.
Don't use the regulation load. That gun deserves a gentle caring hand. . .
Thing is, he presumably wants to hit what he's aiming at. When you've got two barrels both of which are off the center axis of the gun, you have to time the exit of the bullet with how the recoil is shoving the gun right or left. To accomplish same POI for two tubes with one sighting system is one of the great black arts of gunsmithing.
He's locked into burn rate with that Damascus gun's need to shoot black. The magic timing can be achieved by upping or reducing either charge or bullet weight, but for any given bullet design, you're only going to get matching impacts with one level of recoil.
Note: When sighting this thing in, you're going to want your hand on the forend. It can be on top of a rest, but you'll want to simulate how the gun is going to move under recoil in the field as closely as possible.
There is no way I'd subject my shoulder to 120 gr. of BP and a what? 400 gr bullet or more. The gun will shoot at a lower load, I'm sure, even if you have to load for each barrel separately and use hold-over. Not like you're going to hunt dangerous game.
Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
I did manage to find some once fired brass for it. That is on the way. It was less than 1/2 the price of new so had to pounce on it. Everything else in in a basket in limbo for now.
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
George Godolphin Osborne, 9th Duke of Leeds 1828-1895 pretty cool provenance.
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
George Godolphin Osborne, 9th Duke of Leeds 1828-1895 pretty cool provenance.
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
That is incredibly cool!!!!!!
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I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
Didn't the Duke have a little run in with Little Bill sometime back?
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878. I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
That alone is very kool You said the load is engraved on the gun. You really have a gem
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Ron it is a gem. I'm more the lump of coal sort. I had visions of me regulating the perfect load for this. Living a nostalgic dream but with it's provenance and condition.
It calls for someone else.
I have brass on the way that will be gifted to another.
Ron it is a gem. I'm more the lump of coal sort. I had visions of me regulating the perfect load for this. Living a nostalgic dream but with it's provenance and condition.
It calls for someone else.
I have brass on the way that will be gifted to another.
SCREW THAT NOISE!!!
We waged war against England - TWICE - so we wouldn't have to give a crap about the provenance of their nobility's toys. Load it, shoot it, enjoy it. Who else is going to appreciate a large bore double with a catty-whompus stock better than you anyway?
Ron it is a gem. I'm more the lump of coal sort. I had visions of me regulating the perfect load for this. Living a nostalgic dream but with it's provenance and condition.
It calls for someone else.
I have brass on the way that will be gifted to another.
SCREW THAT NOISE!!!
We waged war against England - TWICE - so we wouldn't have to give a crap about the provenance of their nobility's toys. Load it, shoot it, enjoy it. Who else is going to appreciate a large bore double with a catty-whompus stock better than you anyway?
Love ya buddy. yes the cripple stock works for me.
if you check post #107 it isn't the duke but the Jokers comment.
I don't give a RA about the royalty aspect but do about the history.
and if I don't get a like from you about slipping that in undetected well???
I did look him in the eye and he at me and we we're both content and at peace.
Oh well, I was stocking up beer for the video. One to drink while watching, the rest for something cold to put on your shoulder then drink to numb the pain
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Should be interesting.
Regulating a load even less so
Mike I think I figured out the mystery of the black hole.
I have a case of TMI on this
That I don't understand.
I shot my muzzle loader a couple weeks ago with a 50gr charge. 20grs lighter than my sighted in round ball load. Wasn't as accurate. But my son and I had fun and it was still close.
He's locked into burn rate with that Damascus gun's need to shoot black. The magic timing can be achieved by upping or reducing either charge or bullet weight, but for any given bullet design, you're only going to get matching impacts with one level of recoil.
Note: When sighting this thing in, you're going to want your hand on the forend. It can be on top of a rest, but you'll want to simulate how the gun is going to move under recoil in the field as closely as possible.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Keep careful notes.
Use Kentucky hold.
Heck Im even going to make oddball targets with Kentucky bullseyes for my trail boss loads rather than change my scope settings.
I'm probably starting with a 440 to work with.
Everything else in in a basket in limbo for now.
I have checked the ledger and the rifle was made for the Duke of Leeds around 1878.
I'm afraid there is no other information on the gun other than the above.
pretty cool provenance.
I'm right handed and left eye dominant too.
That lineage lasted almost 300 years became extinct in 1963 or 64
Well pilgrim.....
You said the load is engraved on the gun.
You really have a gem
I'm more the lump of coal sort.
I had visions of me regulating the perfect load for this. Living a nostalgic dream but with it's provenance and condition.
It calls for someone else.
I have brass on the way that will be gifted to another.
I won't shoot it.
On a side note my shoulder feels really good about now.
Not even shoot it once?
You are stronger willed than I
We waged war against England - TWICE - so we wouldn't have to give a crap about the provenance of their nobility's toys. Load it, shoot it, enjoy it. Who else is going to appreciate a large bore double with a catty-whompus stock better than you anyway?
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
The brass I'm giving away.
Bullets dies and shell holder have been deleted from the cart.
yes the cripple stock works for me.
if you check post #107 it isn't the duke but the Jokers comment.
I don't give a RA about the royalty aspect but do about the history.
and if I don't get a like from you about slipping that in undetected well???
I did look him in the eye and he at me and we we're both content and at peace.
Don't make me do it Ron!!!!