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bullsi1911
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Why we are seeing a “spike” in COVID cases

First: We are now counting people that have the antibodies-
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/06/25/ten-times-more-people-have-covid-19-antibodies-than-are-diagnosed-cdc-reports/#2426d8907293
This means that people that got the Coronavirus and either never noticed or got better on their own are now being counted as “new cases”. This is completely misleading and is only being done so that states will get more federal money. The people being counted are well, have no symptoms, and are not spreading the disease.
Second, states (like my home state of TX) are now counting and reporting PROBABLE cases (sorry for the twitter links):
https://twitter.com/AshbyGk/status/1279136393050984448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279136393050984448%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheferalirishman.blogspot.com%2F
https://twitter.com/AshbyGk/status/1279136393050984448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279136393050984448%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheferalirishman.blogspot.com%2F
People who MAY have been exposed are now reported as cases. This is blatant misrepresentation and the effects of this ‘spike’ are ruining businesses and lives.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/05/cdc-and-states-are-misreporting-covid-19-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/06/25/ten-times-more-people-have-covid-19-antibodies-than-are-diagnosed-cdc-reports/#2426d8907293
This means that people that got the Coronavirus and either never noticed or got better on their own are now being counted as “new cases”. This is completely misleading and is only being done so that states will get more federal money. The people being counted are well, have no symptoms, and are not spreading the disease.
Second, states (like my home state of TX) are now counting and reporting PROBABLE cases (sorry for the twitter links):
https://twitter.com/AshbyGk/status/1279136393050984448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279136393050984448%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheferalirishman.blogspot.com%2F
https://twitter.com/AshbyGk/status/1279136393050984448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1279136393050984448%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheferalirishman.blogspot.com%2F
People who MAY have been exposed are now reported as cases. This is blatant misrepresentation and the effects of this ‘spike’ are ruining businesses and lives.
To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
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― Douglas Adams
Trump wins: Virus gets worse and mutates into Ebola super virus causing people to turn into cannibalistic zombies. Polar ice cap melts, aliens invade earth, sun goes supernova and Britney Spears is mauled by her pet poodle on live TV.
Trump loses: Virus "miraculously" begins to die out, Fauci wins Nobel Prize and Bill and Hillary renew their wedding vows on Epstein's island.
Most new positives are people between 20 and 30. Why? They ignore CDC guidance, go out in mass protest, thousands elbow to elbow. CNN shows them wearing masks, my personal experience says about 20% wore masks. In Miami where I saw them in person.
Also stats are being manipulated. Check the numbers, nobody seems to be sick/dying from the flu, heart attacks, copd, or many of the normal things. They are being written up as Covid related for more funding. The virus is real, it is hurting people, but local, state and federal governments are using it to control people
I get that you need to get back to work. Fine. Mask up and go back to work. But Rallies? Beach trips? Protests? Holiday celebrations? REALLY?????
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Dont catch it, trust me.
The more STUPID the general population is with the mingling in large crowds the more cases that will crop up, especially with those asymptomatic 'Typhoid Marys' out there spreading it like manure spreaders spread cow patties.
Bottom line is, you can't find it if you don't test for it. And that lets the stupid mouth breathers spread it. If you test for it then you'll find more of it. How is that hard to understand?
― Douglas Adams
The more cases a state has, the more Fed money they get. And the Fed can print all they want. It's fiat currency.
In all transparency, this was third hand information.
Mike
ETA: Covid is real. As is climate change....Both are, IMO, natural things that occur cyclically . Like bubonic plague and the ice-age. But, in this day and age of 24 hour instant media.....it's easy to blow things out of proportion.
N454casull
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
On the one hand, this entire coronavirus event provides fuel for the "more government control" argument. It is evident that BOTH sides agree on basic safety protocols because BOTH Right and Left are pointing fingers at the other's non-mask-wearing, non-social-distancing behaviors. An objective observer could conclude that people are idiots - in many cases, self-serving idiots - regardless of their political leanings and that they need a leash to keep them out of trouble.
On the other hand, governments are composed of the same idiots - in many cases the same self-serving idiots. If this coronavirus event and concurrent episodes of social unrest has shown us anything, it is that governments aren't any better "drivers" than the rest of us, and as such, trusting them with uncontested control over the "bus" that we're all riding leads to everybody going over a cliff.
To compound the issue, in a representative democracy/republic we have idiots selecting idiots - usually at the urgings of various wings of the media, which is composed of, you guessed it, more self-serving idiots.
Add to this the fact that EVERYBODY is operating in real time with varying degrees of incomplete information. This would lead to exasperation and mistrust under the best of circumstances. That everyone seems to be adding their self-serving idiot political spin to every element of what SHOULD be a simple set of scientific facts is not helping.
I wish I had answers to go with those depressing facts. I think at the end of the day, this virus is going to kill who it's going to kill for however long it takes to burn out.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
"My rights end where yours' begin."
In my mind, at times it can go full circle, though,
This might be one of those times.
Mike
N454casull
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
Constitutional rights versus public health. This is front and center here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.9news.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/bandimere-speedway-court-4th-july-celebration/73-a317155c-a105-4a4e-81b6-0789015d83ee
Constitutional rights can and have been suspended/denied during declared emergencies in the past. A possible consequence of that is permanent loss.
And then there's the question of the rights of those that become infected.
A free society is the ideal. The best way to attempt achievement of that is going to be a hotbed of continuing debate for some time.
Having compromised lung capacity, when I know that CO2 buildup from the mask has my pulse racing I take off the mask. If a male or female 'Karen' gets inside the 6 foot zone I have no problem telling them to back off. I do carry a heavy metal shaft cane with a heavy metal head because when the CO2 builds up my right leg gets weak. I won't have any problem cracking the 'Karen' in the head with it if they breach the 6 foot exclusion zone. MY right to breathe without having a heart attack trumps YOUR busybody crap about me removing my mask to do that breathing thing and lower my pulse out of the stratosphere. If I've removed my mask so I can breathe then it is in your best interest to stay the hell away from me. You're wearing that cheesy useless 'chain link fence to avoid mosquitoes' mask so you're theoretically protected, anyway. The BEST masks will theoretically filter down to between 1 and 10 microns; viruses are unfortunately in the .1 to .01 micron range. Change out the water in your bong; the water has gone rancid.
― Douglas Adams