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Worst recoiling rifle, worst pistol

Gene LGene L Senior MemberPosts: 11,742 Senior Member
In your experience.  My worst was a reenactor Civil War smoothbore with  a minie' ball and 60 gr. of powder.  It was my friend's, who was a reenactor.  Slapped my cheek painfully.  Worst pistol was a T/C Contender with the original octagonal barrel and someone else's reloads.  My shooting arm would be at 12 O'clock, maybe 1 O'clock.  I only shot it for the brass.  They were hot loads; I'll never do that again.  Got rid of the Contender and a couple of barrels, including the original arm maimer shortly after that.
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  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    Ive not fired a bigger centerfire rifle than my 30-06.. I won't fire full throttle in my S&W 29 4" barrel any more. My Ruger SBH handles it better. The hot 45 Colt loads out of my Ruger NMBH are the worst.

    Its my shotguns that beat me up brutally......
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,373 Senior Member
    Worst Rifle: my 450 Bushmaster AR  with the cheap PSA adjustable stock I had laying around.  Swapped in a fixed Magpul stock and it is a baby.

    Worst Pistol: I have never fired a rifle caliber round in a pistol, but I have fired 50 AE and 44 Magnums.  

    My choice: my little .380 LCP is no fun at all to shoot.  I would sell it if I thought I could get something approximating fair value.  My Glock 43 is so much easier to shoot that it is insane.  

  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,628 Senior Member
    .340 Weatherby off the bench, my buddies full house Casull loads out of his Freedom Arms model 83.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 7,826 Senior Member
    Teach's  #1 in .45-70. His load was a real slobberknocker!!
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Posts: 7,946 Senior Member
    My 338x284 has pretty stiff recoil.  It is about the same or a little worse than my .358.

    I had an unbraked 7Mag for a while, but was surprised that the recoil wasn't all that bad.

    I know those are nothing compared to the big, dangerous game guns, but I've never shot anything bigger than what I posted above.

    I haven't fired enough different pistols to experience one with really heavy recoil.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 24,714 Senior Member
    Teach's 45 cold tyrannosaurs loads were the worst handgun loads I have fired,  closely followed 310 gr garret bear loads in .44 mag. 

    I've never tried anything in a rifle bigger or heavier than a .30-06 or .308. 
    Shut up-----KAREN; OK Cynthia
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 24,004 Senior Member
    Worst rifle is my 7lb .458 WM with hot 500gr loads. After 3 rounds from a bench, I thought I’d broken my shoulder.  Now days, I only shoot it standing while using 2 PAST Recoil Pads. Even then, 9 rounds is about all I want in a string. It’s unbelievably painful. Disturbingly so. 

    Worst handgun is my TC Contender in .445 Super Mag w/ 12” barrel and wood grips. It’s like laying the back of your hand on a table and having someone hit it with a hammer. 

    Absolutely LOVE both of those guns. But, they are enjoyed with moderation. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 6,749 Senior Member
    Awhile back I got to shoot some 357 mag revolvers with different grip pannels side by side. Grip shape made a huge difference in perceived recoil. I was not able to tell what characteristics about the shape made all the difference.
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,859 Senior Member
    Might be a tossup between my 450 Bushmaster before adding the A2 stock and muzzle brake, or the Sharps with my warm 350 grain load. That thing left a mark....

    Handgun, definitely the 13" Encore barrel in 460 S&W Mag.  I believe that one was around 2100fps with a 300 grain bullet and over 2400fps with a 240 grain bullet.. But it liked to destroy everything I attached to it. So I sold that barrel and stepped down to a 12" in 454 Casull. I gave the last handful of my 300 grain loads to my buddy who bought the 460 barrel. He fired one of them, and refuses to touch the rest to this day.
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 3,892 Senior Member
    Kind off a toss up between a friend’s 8mm Remington Magnum and my Browning B-78 45-70 with hot 500gr loads. Both quite unpleasant off the bench.
    worst hand gun would be hot 300gr loads in my .44 mag SBH. A P.A.S.T. Shooting glove was pretty much mandatory for more than a few of those.
    my H&K FP-7 12ga HD shotgun will get your attention with 3” shells !!
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 11,742 Senior Member
    edited July 17 #12
    My Contender had a .223 bbl (painfully loud, but not much recoil) and a .35 Remington, no problem, and accurate  with longer, heavier barrels. Not so bad but I thought the octagonal .44 looked cool...which it did, but...

    The .223 was ported and so loud and so high pressured it set off a car alarm at the range one day, about 15 feet from the firing line.

    Shotguns, a Browning A5 I shot a round of Clays.  I was very anemic and my blood was very low and thin, had to be hospitalized a week later, and my shoulder was blue down to my elbow and over to my neck, almost.  Negatively impressed me and as the shoot progressed, I started missing easy shots.  Got rid of it, too.  Beautiful gun, but not my taste. The only auto shotgun I've ever owned.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,039 Senior Member
    Browning A-Bolt Synthetic Stalker sans BOSS in .300 WSM. 18 shots from the bench (long story) and I wasn't sure which side of death I preferred. Damned glad the gun wasn't mine. The last 5-6 shots I could actually feel my eyeballs flatten from the concussion. Hated that rig.

    I once owned a Win 94 in .32 Spl  that'd spray the wet dog-snot out of you. Strange, that. Ballistically it's the same as the .30-30 Win. But fire them side by side and you'll for sure pick the .30-30 given a choice.

    Handgun recoil has never really bothered me, though a snubbie .44 Mag is the largest I've tried. My problem with handguns is some days I'm good.....some days I should just drop it and beat feet.....

    Mike


    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 544 Senior Member
    I'm fairly recoil insensitive. And that says quite a bit since I test fire all kinds of guns in a sand trap in a small 10x10' room. My little SxS pistol in 410/45lc isn't pleasant to fire but its not all that bad either. But now that im thinking about it, I don't know that I've test fired anything larger than 338wm. I know I've shot 45-70's with no issue that I can remember. 
  • mitdr774mitdr774 Member Posts: 1,445 Senior Member
    Rifle: Toss up between my .458WM (8.5 pounds) 500gr at 2150 FPS and a Ruger #1 in .475 #2 Jeffrey with a factory Kynoch load.

    Handgun: SP101 2.25" with some max load 110 XTP/W296 loads.
  • jaywaptijaywapti Senior Member Posts: 4,958 Senior Member
    The rifle that hurt me the worst was an 8 or 9 lb  .378 Weatherby. I have fired some English Double with more recoil but they didnt hurt like the 378. Pistol the heaviest recoil was a 454 Casull most annoying was a short barreled S&W 629 44mag.

    JAY
    THE DEFINITION OF GUN CONTROL IS HITTING THE TARGET WITH YOUR FIRST SHOT
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 8,262 Senior Member
    Worst handgun was either the AutoMag or Wildey - one of those '80's glitz guns.

    Probably not bad for foot-pounds, but there's more than enough when you consider the back edges of the grip feel like razor blades.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 16,923 Senior Member
    Rifle: A Marlin Guide Gun in .450 Marlin...not only did it kick the crap out of me but the factory porting job blew smoldering debris all over the place....

    Handgun: A 7.5" Ruger Super Blackhawk...With full house .44 Mags, the most painful handgun I have ever shot....Fired one cylinder through that thing and sent it down the road in the ads for a Bisley Model Vaquero in .45 Colt...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,295 Senior Member
    edited July 18 #19
    Pistol: SRH in .480. My LCP ain't comfortable either.

    Shotgun: single barrel 20ga mc I bought for my youngest son. That thing kicks!!! Stuck a Beretta recoil reducer in the butt stock. Couldn't tell the difference. 

    Never shot a rifle larger than 7mm mag.
  • RugerFanRugerFan Senior Member Posts: 2,295 Senior Member
    Worst Rifle: my 450 Bushmaster AR  with the cheap PSA adjustable stock I had laying around.  Swapped in a fixed Magpul stock and it is a baby.

    Worst Pistol: I have never fired a rifle caliber round in a pistol, but I have fired 50 AE and 44 Magnums.  

    My choice: my little .380 LCP is no fun at all to shoot.  I would sell it if I thought I could get something approximating fair value.  My Glock 43 is so much easier to shoot that it is insane.  

    How does the LCP compare to the 43 size wise?
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 10,917 Senior Member
    edited July 18 #21
    For handgun it was .45 Colt loaded with 300 gr +P Buffalo Bore, one cylinder and my hand was numb.  

    Rifle had to be Teach's 45-70


    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 544 Senior Member
    I just remembered something. I shot a buddies 460s&w 3 times and handed it back to him. That dude was snappy and made my palm painfully numb. My 500 Mosin is pretty peppy too.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 12,628 Senior Member
    I forgot about the .416 Rigby in a Ruger #1, it took about 2-3 seconds for the sensation in my shoulder to come back, and it hurt.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,222 Senior Member
    Worst pistol. I would say toss-up between the Ruger Super Blackhawk that I still have that is supposed to go to my brother in law in MD. Stupid laws. AND the short 12 ga Mossberg pump with a two shot tube mag. That monster nearly sprained the web of my hand.

    I hate wooden grips for shooting large magnums. I found it odd that SBH was that bad as my first handgun was a 6 inch 629. 

    Worst rifle....No 5 jungle Carbine. That rubber buttplate on light rifle kicks the heck out of your shoulder. 

    The funny thing was at that same meet with the shorty 12ga. I asked my machinegun owning buddy if he wanted to shoot the 629....he said and I quote. "I have machine guns, what would I need with that?" He bought one the next day. 
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • knitepoetknitepoet Senior Member Posts: 21,095 Senior Member
    Not sure I can think of a "worst" rifle. I shot all the 300RUM ammo @JBOhio had with him @ Teach's one year, turned to him smiling and asked if he had any more. (That when he started referring to me as "recoil proof" )
     I THINK my 50 Beowulf might be the worst. Not because of the recoil, but because of the plastic "meat tenderizer" butt plate the lower I normally use it on HAD. Got a smooth one and it doesn't bother now.

    Handguns, without a doubt, is my Contender with its 45-70 barrel. Load of Rx-7 and my homecast 330gr HP at 1850fps. I have a Pachmayr grip on it and when I fired it, I could feel the rubber compress  and the the steel hit the web of my hand. If I get stupid and put my left index finger behind the "hook" on the trigger guard, it'll also split it open.
    Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates, Rule #37: There is no “overkill”. There is only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.


  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Posts: 2,122 Senior Member
    Rifles.....that would be my Howa 1500 in .30-06 before I installed the recoil pad.  Wood stock, hard plastic butt plate.  I called it my "Moose Gun" because it kicked like a moose.  The recoil pad really tamed it down, I could shoot it all day now.  However, the Brazilian single shot 12 gauge I recently bought for nostalgic reasons (I had one like it as a teenager) puts the .30-06 to shame.  There is definitely a recoil pad in that shot gun's future.

    Pistols.....my S&W 686 Plus in .357 magnum takes that prize.  Specifically the Barnes self-defense loads I run in it.  First shot I took I think I was a little too eager to try them out and didn't take the time to get a proper grip.  The recoil took the skin off the webbing between my thumb and finger.  I also forgot to put my hearing protection on so after that shot I was standing there with my hand bleeding and my ears ringing.  Good thing I was the only one at the range so nobody saw that.  :D
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 5,796 Senior Member
    My old CZ .458 WinMag with 500gr solids would relocate the snot inside your nose.  But it was doable.  Handgun had to be my old 4” S&W .500 With full power loads.  But again, it was “manageable”.  Close second in recoil level but probably worst overall was my Smith&Wesson Mountain Gun with a few buffalo bore rounds I sent through it.  That just sucked, so for the rest of my life I will never sent anything heavier than 180gr SPs out of it.  There’s nothing in NA that needs killing that bad....
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • wddodgewddodge Senior Member Posts: 1,094 Senior Member
    My worst rifle is a M38 Mosin with the steel butt plate. About 10 rounds is all I can take of that one.
     
    Shotgun would be a Spanish made 12 ga coach gun with steel butt plate.

    Hand gun is my 500 Smith and Wesson. 440 gr cast with 110 powder is a handful but manageable. 300 gr with a full load of 110 is just plain painful.

    Several years ago, I was at a PPC match and got talked into taking the 500 thru the course. 40 rounds in 52 seconds, some free style, some strong hand only, some weak hand only and my arms felt like jello. Never again!!  This led me to trying Unique and Trailboss loads. Now its a much more pleasant animal to plink with. I save the 110 loads for the macho guys to play with.

    Denny
    Participating in a gun buy back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids.... Clint Eastwood
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,373 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    Worst Rifle: my 450 Bushmaster AR  with the cheap PSA adjustable stock I had laying around.  Swapped in a fixed Magpul stock and it is a baby.

    Worst Pistol: I have never fired a rifle caliber round in a pistol, but I have fired 50 AE and 44 Magnums.  

    My choice: my little .380 LCP is no fun at all to shoot.  I would sell it if I thought I could get something approximating fair value.  My Glock 43 is so much easier to shoot that it is insane.  

    How does the LCP compare to the 43 size wise?
    The LCP fits nicely in a pocket holster while the G43 barely works in that role.  

    The LCP offers maximum bang in the lightest, smallest package.  But, that comes at a price of wicked recoil. The small grip focuses every bit of that recoil into one small area. 
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,731 Senior Member
    edited July 18 #30
    Any steel butt-plate WWII rifle. Mosin M44 especially! The K98 is not pleasant either. I love to shoot them, but they are not high round count shooters. Especially off the bench. Those were some serious men back then!
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,373 Senior Member

    Michakav said:
    Any steel butt-plate WWII rifle. Mosin M44 especially! The K98 is not pleasant either. I love to shoot them, but they are not high round count shooters. Especially off the bench. Those were some serious men back then!

    When you think about how much smaller men were 100 years ago, it is even more amazing.  Small (physically) men With ginormous rifles.  
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