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  • BryanAustinBryanAustin Posts: 10 New Member
    1. Do you own any cowboy guns?
    2. Are they cheap replicas as those imported from Italy,
    3. modern reproductions made by original American gunmakers
    4. or are they originals made by original manufacturers?
    5. Has Remington ever made a modern reproduction of the 1875 Outlaw?
    6. It's kind of nice to own cowboy guns built by the original makers.
    7. When was the last genuine Sharps buffalo gun produced? 
    8. Colt makes modern reproductions of Peacemakers and Winchester makes reproductions of late 1880's rifles and carbines. Does any person here have any of those guns?
    9. What are authentic pre-1900 calibers for Winchester lever rifles and carbines?
    10. If I were to own coboy gun reproductions, I would want authentic (historically correct) calibers of that period.
    11. Did cowboys of the Old West have Winchesters chambered in .45 Colt?
    12. I thought .30-30 Win. was the common lever rifle round then.
    13. I'm certain .375 Mag. was not around then. 
    14. Do you shoot them for fun
    15. or in competition?
    16. Do you twirl them for showmanship?
    17. Do any of them even make good defense weapons
    18. or hunting implements in modern times?


    1. Yes
    2. No, they are great quality Uberti's made in Italy
    3. Yes, Marlin 1894CB, although the CB was not an original designation
    4. Yes, marlin 1889 made in 1891
    5. Don't think so
    6. That is over rated but yes, I miss the "Made in USA"
    7. No idea
    8. No, Not Colt or Winchester...rather I do have a Model 94' 30-30 made in 1951. All of Winchester's leveractions are made in Japan...refereed to as "Japchesters"
    9. 45 Colt, 44 W.C.F. (44-40) and the other -20 and -40 calibers to include the 45-70 and other larger calibers.
    10. Yeap, 45 Colt for a revolver, 44-40 pre-1876...post 1876, 44-40 Colt and a 44-40 Winchester 73'
    11. No
    12. The 30-30 was introduced in 1894. Still a cowboy gun but not as we see on TV. The "Wild West" as we know it was only a ten year period from 1865 to 1875.
    13. correct, but the 38 spl. was introduced in 1898.
    14. Yes
    15. not any more, for many years now.
    16. Fast draw with live 38 spl, 45 Colt and 44-40 ammo: 44-40 
    17. Yes, when loaded properly
    18. Yes, when loaded properly

    The 44-40 was a powerful cartridge in both black powder and smokeless powder up until Winchester started using pistol powders for factory loads as well as reduced "Cowboy" mouse farts.

    My biased opinion is the 44-40!!!! I need professional therapy!
      
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 2,035 Senior Member
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • BryanAustinBryanAustin Posts: 10 New Member
    edited December 2020 #35
    bellcat said:
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    Thanks to the "Spaghetti Westerns"!!!
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,575 Senior Member
    edited December 2020 #36
    Well, now...I answered my question in this old thread when I asked the difference between the 1899 and the 99.  The Savage 99 designation came about in 1920, before it was the 1899.  Same rifle, though.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    edited December 2020 #37
    bellcat said:
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    bellcat said:
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    Thanks to the "Spaghetti Westerns"!!!



    Well let’s see... Beretta was founded in 1526.... so, yes.  And they’ve been doing it for a loooooooooong time before Clint landed on their shores..
  • BryanAustinBryanAustin Posts: 10 New Member
    edited December 2020 #38
    GunNut said:
    bellcat said:
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    bellcat said:
    I do believe the Italians have been making quality firearms for a long time.
    Thanks to the "Spaghetti Westerns"!!!



    Well let’s see... Beretta was founded in 1526.... so, yes.  And they’ve been doing it for a loooooooooong time before Clint landed on their shores..
    When did Beretta start making Colt single action replicas and when did they discontinue production? I'll just leave that right there for a while.  :)
  • HappySquidHappySquid Member Posts: 445 Member
    in Italy they where making firearms before the discovery of the America's by Columbus.   I'll just leave this for a while  :)

  • BryanAustinBryanAustin Posts: 10 New Member
    Uberti is the best replica revolvers. They are all over the place, parts are available and mine have been nothing but reliable.

    Pietta - I had too many problems with Pietta, no longer own any.

    Colt - needs to get their heads out of their you know what...prices are not competitive.

    USFA - same...too expensive

    Ruger - great firearms but not what I want in a revolver replica.

    There were and maybe are others out there but......

    Eastwood put the Spaghetti Westerns on the map...deal with it! All but the one's Eastwood stared in are unforgettable....but certainly enjoyable. I watch them all every chance I get.


  • KnotholeKnothole Posts: 1 New Member
    Try Cimarron. Exact replicas maybe even better. Made in the good ole USA
  • BryanAustinBryanAustin Posts: 10 New Member
    Knothole said:
    Try Cimarron. Exact replicas maybe even better. Made in the good ole USA
    Cimarron imports Uberti's
  • BamaakIIBamaakII Posts: 421 Member
    A lot of clones are made by ubertti for other companies.  Their 1857 are about as sexy a gun as their is.  What exactly is a cheap replica?  Heritage?  Not really a clone.   Rugers are not either.  Uberttis are as close as they come but they aren't cheap by any measure.
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