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  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    @Big Al1 and earlyagain, thanks for the schooling!    I 'm assuming there might be a benefit in practicing with a heavier round because it will get me accustomed to the kick, but when I switch to the 85gr round, will there need to be a big adjustment?
  • JerryBobCoJerryBobCo Senior Member Podunk, Tx.Posts: 8,227 Senior Member
    Welcome, Twinkle.  I would offer my sage advice, but I can't offer anything that hasn't already been stated.
    Jerry

    Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
  • NNNN Senior Member NCPosts: 25,200 Senior Member
    Welcome aboard.

    If that .32 H&R mag is too much recoil shoot .32 S&W long or .32 S&W in it, there will be no more recoil than a .22 lr.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Welcome, Twinkle.  I would offer my sage advice, but I can't offer anything that hasn't already been stated.
    Thanks for the welcome!

  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    NN said:
    Welcome aboard.

    If that .32 H&R mag is too much recoil shoot .32 S&W long or .32 S&W in it, there will be no more recoil than a .22 lr.
    Thanks for the welcome!  As a rank newb, I'm assuming S&W means Smith& Wesson., yeah?  I will look for these rounds, as my memory of shooting a .22 rifle is a very pleasant one, recoil-wise.

  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    edited August 2020 #37
    Twinkle said:
    @Big Al1 and earlyagain, thanks for the schooling!    I 'm assuming there might be a benefit in practicing with a heavier round because it will get me accustomed to the kick, but when I switch to the 85gr round, will there need to be a big adjustment?
    Not a huge one.  You have to remember, fundamentals are fundamentals and they carry through platforms and cartridges.  You will have to practice with heavier recoiling rounds at some point of course and you might have to learn to grip tighter because there is a recoil difference, but as a rather savvy member here once said, You either learn to control recoil or recoil will control you (I'm paraphrasing since I do not recall the exact quote).

    Now my personal mantra is recoil MIGHT be unpleasant but it won't kill you, and once you get that concept it's really easy to get past it.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Welcome, Twinkle.  I would offer my sage advice, but I can't offer anything that hasn't already been stated.
    Thanks for the welcome!

    GunNut said:
    Twinkle said:
    @Big Al1 and earlyagain, thanks for the schooling!    I 'm assuming there might be a benefit in practicing with a heavier round because it will get me accustomed to the kick, but when I switch to the 85gr round, will there need to be a big adjustment?
    Not a huge one.  You have to remember, fundamentals are fundamentals and they carry through platforms and cartridges.  You will have to practice with heavier recoiling rounds at some point of course and you might have to learn to grip tighter because there is a recoil difference, but as a rather savvy member here once said, You either learn to control recoil or recoil will control you (I'm paraphrasing since I do not recall the exact quote).

    Now my personal mantra is recoil MIGHT be unpleasant but it won't kill you, and once you get that concept it's really easy to get past it.
    Thanks GunNut.  All knowledge is good.

  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,702 Senior Member
    edited August 2020 #39
    A semi-wadcutter (SWC) is shaped like a truncated cone.  A wadcutter is set into the case so the front of the bullet is even with the case. No difference in bullet, front to back.  Welcome to the board.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Thanks Gene L and knitepoet.  I'm going to learn so much here!
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Central MNPosts: 14,577 Senior Member
    Welcome hey, we can help you spend money on guns and ammo around here ;)
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
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    Lyman, Hornady, Sierra, Nosler, Speer, and many others publish loading guides and manuals. Most feature large volumes of detailed information, and explanations of everything related to handloading. It all makes for fascinating reading. A person can never have too many books and manuals.

    One of the reasons I took up handloading was to tailor loads to have less recoil. Less kick and noise are good things sometimes.
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Welcome hey, we can help you spend money on guns and ammo around here ;)
    Thanks CHIRO!  I'm sure I'll need help!  LOL!
    Does your screen name mean you are a chiropractor?  My chiro is totally my hero!

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    NN said:
    Welcome aboard.

    If that .32 H&R mag is too much recoil shoot .32 S&W long or .32 S&W in it, there will be no more recoil than a .22 lr.
    What NN said is good advice. I have a little Ruger Super Single Six .32 H&R Mag. single action revolver with 9 1/2 inch barrel and it's like shooting  a .22 revolver with  the magnum rounds, and pretty much no recoil at all with the .32 Smith and Wesson Long ammunition. Just have to clean the cylinder a bit more vigorously when shooting the .32 S&W Long ammunition, but it isn't that hard to do.

    Reloading isn't that hard at all. Just requires attention to detail, and women are good at that, no matter what someone said. You can do it. If you don't have someone to teach you, then get a good reloading manual like the Lyman manual. It has lots and lots of information in it. Follow the instructions and you won't go wrong.

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  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    tennmike said:
    NN said:
    Welcome aboard.

    If that .32 H&R mag is too much recoil shoot .32 S&W long or .32 S&W in it, there will be no more recoil than a .22 lr.
    What NN said is good advice. I have a little Ruger Super Single Six .32 H&R Mag. single action revolver with 9 1/2 inch barrel and it's like shooting  a .22 revolver with  the magnum rounds, and pretty much no recoil at all with the .32 Smith and Wesson Long ammunition. Just have to clean the cylinder a bit more vigorously when shooting the .32 S&W Long ammunition, but it isn't that hard to do.

    Reloading isn't that hard at all. Just requires attention to detail, and women are good at that, no matter what someone said. You can do it. If you don't have someone to teach you, then get a good reloading manual like the Lyman manual. It has lots and lots of information in it. Follow the instructions and you won't go wrong.

    Thanks tennmike.  I will keep my eye out for the Lyman manual.  I'm sure that I'll be able to find it either at the hardware store or the gun store.  I have done a lot of precise work in my life and a little bit of metal work too, so I think I'll be able to handle it.

  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    A good gun store that sells reloading supplies will most likely have the Lyman manual. The manual covers setting up the dies in the press, and lots of different bullets and load  data. It's worth the price.

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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Manistee Natl ForestPosts: 18,229 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    @Big Al1 and earlyagain, thanks for the schooling!    I 'm assuming there might be a benefit in practicing with a heavier round because it will get me accustomed to the kick, but when I switch to the 85gr round, will there need to be a big adjustment?
    Right now...shooting a lot is going to get you acquainted/reacquainted with the basics...really doesn't matter much what you're sending downrange bulletwise...

    But, you will arrive at a point where you are going to want your target (practice) ammo to mimic your SD ammo as closely as possible...

    For instance.. I carry 230 grain jacketed hollowpoints in my .45 ACP 1911...My range ammo IS 230 grain Full Metal Jacket...much less expensive but ballistically similar...

    About once a year I shoot up my carry ammo and replace it with new
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Twinkle said:
    @Big Al1 and earlyagain, thanks for the schooling!    I 'm assuming there might be a benefit in practicing with a heavier round because it will get me accustomed to the kick, but when I switch to the 85gr round, will there need to be a big adjustment?
    Right now...shooting a lot is going to get you acquainted/reacquainted with the basics...really doesn't matter much what you're sending downrange bulletwise...

    But, you will arrive at a point where you are going to want your target (practice) ammo to mimic your SD ammo as closely as possible...

    For instance.. I carry 230 grain jacketed hollowpoints in my .45 ACP 1911...My range ammo IS 230 grain Full Metal Jacket...much less expensive but ballistically similar...

    About once a year I shoot up my carry ammo and replace it with new
    Sounds like common sense advice.  Thanks!

  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    edited August 2020 #49
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and tell you woman can do as well with firearms if not better than most men. I used to teach 4H position shooting with girls and boys and we didn't separate them. They shot as one team. One year my oldest who is a daughter, won district. Tell me about it. Some things women are just better at. You don't let your egos get in your way and therefore you're more focused.

    Anybody can reload and all it requires is a brain and common sense, two things women are not behind men with. But I caution anyone to read read read and then read some more before you start. I learned most of my beginning knowledge from Speer Bullet Reloading Manual # 9. But there are many good manuals with instructions in the first few pages and safety is included in all steps. If you follow these steps closely you stand the chance of having a long safe reloading career. Go for it.
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  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    snake284 said:
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and tell you woman can do as well with firearms if not better than most men. I used to teach 4H position shooting with girls and boys and we didn't separate them. They shot as one team. One year my oldest who is a daughter, won district. Tell me about it. Some things women are just better at. You don't let your egos get in your way and therefore you're more focused.

    Anybody can reload and all it requires is a brain and common sense, two things women are not behind men with. But I caution anyone to read read read and then read some more before you start. I learned most of my beginning knowledge from Speer Bullet Reloading Manual # 9. But there are many good manuals with instructions in the first few pages and safety is included in all steps. If you follow these steps closely you stand the chance of having a long safe reloading career. Go for it.
    Thanks for everything snake284, especially the support.  When I was doing the little bit of shooting I did in Montana, I made it a habit to talk to as many men as I could and, without exception, the older guys told me that in their opinions, women are as capable as men and in some cases, better at shooting.  I think what you said about egos is possibly true.  For me, the driver was fierce sibling rivalry on the part of my older brother which, at our ages, was surprising.  Anyway, one of the best feelings I got out of shooting was bringing my targets home to show him.  He never said it to my face but he talked to his guy friends and gave me actual props for the first time in my life!

    I have a ton of faith in my attention to detail and skill in precise tasks and I also have a ton of respect for the fact that, if I do this wrong, the result could be REALLY wrong!  Not messing around.

  • 10canyon5310canyon53 Member Central FLPosts: 2,122 Senior Member
    My father was the captain of the ROTC rifle team at the University of Florida in the late '50's.  One day he decided to bring his girlfriend (my mother) to the team target practice session.  Much to his embarrassment, she out-shot the entire team.   :D
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member WyomingPosts: 8,559 Senior Member
    Welcome to mad house Twinkle.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    My father was the captain of the ROTC rifle team at the University of Florida in the late '50's.  One day he decided to bring his girlfriend (my mother) to the team target practice session.  Much to his embarrassment, she out-shot the entire team.   :D
    Thanks for sharing that!

  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    Welcome to mad house Twinkle.
    Thanks Ernie!

  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Colorado SpringsPosts: 7,801 Senior Member
    My father was the captain of the ROTC rifle team at the University of Florida in the late '50's.  One day he decided to bring his girlfriend (my mother) to the team target practice session.  Much to his embarrassment, she out-shot the entire team.   :D
    As you may know, a few years back I was an avid p'dog shooter. 500 yard hits against coke can sized targets in a stiff wind were pretty ho-hum.....it got to the point that a miss actually irritated me. When my wife and I were first dating, I took her to the rifle range, and handed her my Mod 70 in .223 Rem. I told her to fire from the bench for "group", not bullseye. Being 5' tall, the butt was in her armpit. She fired 5 shots, and I didn't even bother looking at her target.

    Somewhat condescendingly, I said, "Okay....my turn" and fired 5 shots at a different target. Imagine my surprise when both our groups were sub-3/8". And hers beat mine by nearly .100"! She shot damn near a quarter-inch 5 shot group with the stock tucked under her armpit!!! And it was MY highly tweaked main pdog rig......

    Shameful day, it was........

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    My father was the captain of the ROTC rifle team at the University of Florida in the late '50's.  One day he decided to bring his girlfriend (my mother) to the team target practice session.  Much to his embarrassment, she out-shot the entire team.   :D
    As you may know, a few years back I was an avid p'dog shooter. 500 yard hits against coke can sized targets in a stiff wind were pretty ho-hum.....it got to the point that a miss actually irritated me. When my wife and I were first dating, I took her to the rifle range, and handed her my Mod 70 in .223 Rem. I told her to fire from the bench for "group", not bullseye. Being 5' tall, the butt was in her armpit. She fired 5 shots, and I didn't even bother looking at her target.

    Somewhat condescendingly, I said, "Okay....my turn" and fired 5 shots at a different target. Imagine my surprise when both our groups were sub-3/8". And hers beat mine by nearly .100"! She shot damn near a quarter-inch 5 shot group with the stock tucked under her armpit!!! And it was MY highly tweaked main pdog rig......

    Shameful day, it was........

    Mike
    :D

  • zorbazorba Senior Member Merrritt Island, FLPosts: 25,185 Senior Member
    edited August 2020 #57
    I handed my brand new CZ-75 (9mm pistol) to my sister, who had NEVER shot a gun in her life before that day. I had her shoot several magazines with my Ruger Mark III (22LR pistol), and she wanted to try "just one shot" with the 9mm. She stood there aiming at the target for a fairly long time, obviously concentrating on the fundamentals, then shot a bullseye!
    My wife shot a 5 shot smiley face into a paper plate when she qual'ed for her CCW. Instructor was VERY impressed!
    If I can be a Belly Dancer as a male, a female sure can reload and shoot!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    zorba said:
    I handed my brand new CZ-75 (9mm pistol) to my sister, who had NEVER shot a gun in her life before that day. I had her shoot several magazines with my Ruger Mark III (22LR pistol), and she wanted to try "just one shot" with the 9mm. She stood there aiming at the target for a fairly long time, obviously concentrating on the fundamentals, then shot a bullseye!
    My wife shot a 5 shot smiley face into a paper plate when she qual'ed for her CCW. Instructor was VERY impressed!
    If I can be a Belly Dancer as a male, a female sure can reload and shoot!
    Ana behibek, ya habibi!  I'm a belly dance costumer! 

    Your sister and your wife sound like amazing women! 

    I'll have to look into posting some pictures of my targets.


  • zorbazorba Senior Member Merrritt Island, FLPosts: 25,185 Senior Member
    edited August 2020 #59
    Twinkle said:
    zorba said:
    I handed my brand new CZ-75 (9mm pistol) to my sister, who had NEVER shot a gun in her life before that day. I had her shoot several magazines with my Ruger Mark III (22LR pistol), and she wanted to try "just one shot" with the 9mm. She stood there aiming at the target for a fairly long time, obviously concentrating on the fundamentals, then shot a bullseye!
    My wife shot a 5 shot smiley face into a paper plate when she qual'ed for her CCW. Instructor was VERY impressed!
    If I can be a Belly Dancer as a male, a female sure can reload and shoot!
    Ana behibek, ya habibi!  I'm a belly dance costumer! 

    How cool is that? I've had to make, have made, or adapt every costume I have. I learned some sewing in self defense! Waist down, I can buy off the rack. Waist to neck, nothing's available except a few "drummer's vests" which are too long. I've cut a few of those down. Neck to crown, I can also buy off the rack. I don't want to derail this thread - take a peek at my website: www.doubleveil.net

    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • TwinkleTwinkle Posts: 174 Member
    zorba said:
    Twinkle said:
    zorba said:
    I handed my brand new CZ-75 (9mm pistol) to my sister, who had NEVER shot a gun in her life before that day. I had her shoot several magazines with my Ruger Mark III (22LR pistol), and she wanted to try "just one shot" with the 9mm. She stood there aiming at the target for a fairly long time, obviously concentrating on the fundamentals, then shot a bullseye!
    My wife shot a 5 shot smiley face into a paper plate when she qual'ed for her CCW. Instructor was VERY impressed!
    If I can be a Belly Dancer as a male, a female sure can reload and shoot!
    Ana behibek, ya habibi!  I'm a belly dance costumer! 

    How cool is that? I've had to make, have made, or adapt every costume I have. I learned some sewing in self defense! Waist down, I can buy off the rack. Waist to neck, nothing's available except a few "drummer's vests" which are too long. I've cut a few of those down. Neck to crown, I can also buy off the rack. I don't want to derail this thread - take a peek at my website: www.doubleveil.net

    Let's DM down memory lane!

  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Central MNPosts: 14,577 Senior Member
    Twinkle said:
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Welcome hey, we can help you spend money on guns and ammo around here ;)
    Thanks CHIRO!  I'm sure I'll need help!  LOL!
    Does your screen name mean you are a chiropractor?  My chiro is totally my hero!

    Yes.

    We can actually enable you about just about anything you would wish to purchase, up to and including belly dancing tutorials and sewing machines ;)
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
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