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JerryBobCo
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Started watching Lonesome Dove last night

again.
We watched the first segment. It ended with the Irish kid being bitten and killed by water mocassins while crossing the Nueces River.
If you have watched this, read about Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving. They blazed the Goodnight Loving trail that was used to drive cattle from central Texas, through west Texas, New Mexico and into Colorado. I think that Larry McMurtry borrowed a lot of this piece of fiction from true events that happened to these two men.
We watched the first segment. It ended with the Irish kid being bitten and killed by water mocassins while crossing the Nueces River.
If you have watched this, read about Charles Goodnight and Oliver Loving. They blazed the Goodnight Loving trail that was used to drive cattle from central Texas, through west Texas, New Mexico and into Colorado. I think that Larry McMurtry borrowed a lot of this piece of fiction from true events that happened to these two men.
Jerry
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
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Some of the Lonesome Dove movies that came out afterward are decent. Definitely can not live up to the original. I was never a huge fan of the Return to Lonesome Dove. Comanche Moon was probably my favorite of the follow ups. Prequel to Lonesome Dove when Call and Gus were Texas Rangers. Val Kilmer is in it. Not a bad show.
Also, McMurtry's Streets of Laredo is one of my favorites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Loving
Here's the description of how Oliver Loving died.
Death[edit]
In the spring of 1867, Loving and Goodnight returned to Texas, ready to start a new drive.[1][3] This third drive was slowed by heavy rains and Native American threats. Loving went ahead of the herd for contract bidding, taking only Bill Wilson, a trusted scout, with him.[3] Although he told Goodnight that he should travel at night through Native American Indian country, he pushed ahead during the day.[3] In a Comanche attack, he was seriously wounded at Loving Bend on the Pecos River.[3][4] The weakened Loving sent Wilson back to the herd, eluded the Indians, and, with the aid of Mexican traders, reached Fort Sumner, only to die there of gangrene.[1] Before he died on September 25, 1867, Goodnight assured him that his wish to be buried in Texas would be carried out.[3][4] After a temporary burial at Fort Sumner, while Goodnight drove the herd on to Colorado, Goodnight had Loving's body exhumed and returned to Texas.[3] Stories differ as to who accompanied the body back to Weatherford, but he was reburied there in Greenwood Cemetery on March 4, 1868.[3][4] As a member of Phoenix Lodge No. 275 at Weatherford, Loving was buried with Masonic honors.[5]
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
I read a recent interview with Robert Duvall in which he said his role as Gus was his favorite role that he ever played. That sure showed. You could tell that role was just made for him.
Mike
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Mike
N454casull
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Any tips.....anybody?
Mike
N454casull
ROKU adapters are less than $100, and allow you to access Netflix, Amazon Prime and a host of other subscription streaming channels. We have several, and it's not all that much.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
"I hate rude behavior in a man."
“Ain’t much of a crime, whackin’ a surly bartender.”
“They don’t know it, but the wrath of the Lord is about to descend on ‘em.”
The best scenes ever.
N454casull
My "saved" to watch lists on the streaming services are so long I'll be long dead and never get to all of the shows/movies I've put in there.
I'm thinking of cancelling ComCast entirely, returning their equipment, and starting from scratch with CenturyLink internet/wifi only.
Decent plan? I'm really tired of $250 a month when we have Roku, Netflix, Amazon Prime and watch ComCast purely for the local channels. I can get more up to date news and weather via the internet.
Mike
N454casull
Mike, I think your plan is a good one.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
First, the Blue Duck character had to be based on Quanah Parker. Both were comanche / caucasion half breeds who terrorized Texas. The big difference is that Parker eventually realized his was of life was doomed, surrendered, and became an upstanding member of the reservation in Oklahoma.
Second, as great a writer as McMurtry is, he writes the saddest endings. After watching the last episode, I felt bad for all of the characters, most of which were dead. if you read Streets of Laredo (spoiler alert), which is a sequel to Dove, you will discover that Newt did not fare well.
That's all.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
I agree with your observation on McMurtry. I LOVE Lonesome Dove but Lord watching the end always makes me sad. I keep hoping that Woodrow would call Newt “son” at least once before turning away to take Gus back to Texas. Then the parade of all the dead folks I like right before the end is emotional to say the least. But, you can’t say he doesn’t get you emotionally invested into his plots!
LM has a dark sense of humor interwoven in his stories. A realistic touch.
John 3: 1-21
Jake shot a guy in Arkansas. Which caused him to flee, ultimately finding Deets and ending up back in Lonesome Dove. As a result, he starts the idea of driving cattle to Montana. That sets off that chain of events. Taking Lori with him, then dumping her and allowing her to be kidnapped. The bar owner burned the place down and killed himself due to Lori and everyone leaving. Etc..
As a result of Jake shooting a guy in Arkansas, Sheriff Johnson is pressured into going after him. He decides to take the little boy with him. And since he left, his wife leaves to find her lover, which causes Rosco to leave to look for July. That sets up an entirely different chain of events that ends up meeting the other story line along the way.
The entire story falls apart if not for the actions of Jake Spoon... And he was hung as a result of his actions.