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Gene L
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Deputy involved shooting at my former SO

Very quick, woman with a knife launched herself at deputies. Five shots, fast shots. Here's the story and a video of the shooting.
https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20200922/update-officials-release-bodycam-video-of-oconee-county-deputy-shooting-killing-woman-with-knife
https://www.onlineathens.com/news/20200922/update-officials-release-bodycam-video-of-oconee-county-deputy-shooting-killing-woman-with-knife
Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
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Looks justified from the video, and I commend him and the partner for keeping a cool head, communicating usefully with each other, and with the suspect.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Mike
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In that tight of an apartment, he probably could not use the taser.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
She made her choice, even if it wasn't with a clear mind.
She stabbed a dog and hit a man on the head with a pipe, she is certainly capable of lethal violence. She's ranting incoherently at times so her mental state is in question but they were inside for seventeen minutes trying to talk her down so, apparently, the officers still thought that was possible. Good officers don't actually "Want" to go around shooting people but she was non-compliant (warned to drop the knife 4 times in a 47 second video). I'm guessing the officer with the Taser was maneuvering around to get a clearer shot when she decided to rush. I'm guessing she saw the officer repositioning and that triggered her attack. In her mental state, any little thing could have triggered a charge.
Why she was behaving like that (off her meds, illegal drugs, tragic event) who knows but she acted with apparent lethal intent towards the officer and the officer was justified in his response.
Cramped quarters don't leave many options like a rapid retreat. Why not just over power her? Maybe, but you'll probably need both hands for that so in the 1 second it takes her to reach you, you'll probably only have time to drop your weapon on the floor so you can free both hands. If that was your plan after 17 minutes, you should have reholstered long ago. I hope your Chuck Norris skills are up to the task.
Barring any new evidence that we don't know about, it looked like a clean shoot to me.
My only suggestion, helmet cams! Don't put the camera at chest level because when the arms go up you get that obstructed view.
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
The TASER has (in my opinion) become a jading tool for LE. It's effectiveness is a roll of the dice in many scenarios and in the time elapsed after probe contact and officers expecting (or waiting) for a physiological result the tactical advantage is diminished or outright lost.
Fortunately there were two cops and one had lethal cover as insurance for a poor TASER effect. It paid off. If this was simgle-officer and he tried a TASER there maybe have been a cop funeral instead.
I'm curious to know if the probes landed and something affected proper NMI (neuromuscular incapacitation).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnoA0xmDxUk
Great breakdown of the shooting and the problem with Tasers. Also tiurns out that the host is a friend of a friend of yours, Gene.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov