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JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 751 Senior Member
I had a guy bring me a sharps rifle that he wanted to know what it was chambered in. Not my forte so I did a chamber cast. 50-70 government. He picked up his rifle and left. Well he comes back today with a bottlenecked cartridge that was headstamped as 50-70 but it was a 45cal bullet. Im sure you gurus probably know what it was but I informed him that it wasn't what his rifle is chambered in. 
We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 

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  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 751 Senior Member
    Oh yeah, this was meant to be a question if anyone knows what cartridge a 50-70 necked down to a 45 caliber might be?
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 17,442 Senior Member
    I have a collection of Sharps cartridges at home...unfortunately, I'm on the road and won't be back til Saturday...
    if your question isn't answered by then I'll try to help...

    There were several bottle neck cartridges that Sharps were chambered for...

    Is this an original or a reproduction?
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,142 Senior Member
    There was a .45-75 Sharps that was a necked down .50-110. That one has me stumped!!
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 751 Senior Member
    The rifle is original and definitely chambered in 50-70. I just want to know what he brought in with him that was a necked down 50-70 with the 45 caliber bullet  
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 3,968 Senior Member
    Since it was headstamped 50-70, my bet it was someone's version of a Sharps wildcat cartridge. 
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,394 Senior Member
    edited October 2020 #7
    The rifle is original and definitely chambered in 50-70. I just want to know what he brought in with him that was a necked down 50-70 with the 45 caliber bullet  
    My guess is he brought in a 45-75 Winchester cartridge made from 50-70 government brass. Since 50-70 is slightly oversized at the base, the cartridge he brought in was most likely meant for a reproduction 45-75 rifle and not an original. Although it is possible to make 45-75 Winchester reproduction brass for an original rifle by fire forming either 50-110 or 348 Winchester brass since those bases are very slightly undersized.

    Anyway, that's my guess. It would help alot to actually see the cartridge. 
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
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  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,142 Senior Member
    I looked in my book of cartridge conversions; couldn't find a thing.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 751 Senior Member
    Thanks everyone. I wish I had thought to snap a picture of it. It was definitely something I've never seen before.
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
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