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Just an ordinary drive in the van.

AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 470 Member
edited May 3 in Personal Defense #1

Not an ordinary van;



And not an ordinary driver;



Leo Prinsloo, a former member of the SAPS Special Task Force and the head instructor of its "Lone Operator" courses. The unit is responsible for all hostage situations in South Africa and other specialised functions. He is also the founder of The Edge Shooting Academy in Pretoria.

He drove into a parking lot, got out of the van to ambush the shooters, they did not follow him in.

Balls or what?






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  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,174 Senior Member
    Looks like a pickup truck from the outside front. Interesting video on several levels. Even when under attack, the guy riding shotgun was fiddling with a smartphone!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 470 Member
    edited May 3 #3

    It's an armored cash transit van and the safest place for him to be.

    He wasn't calling law enforcement, in South Africa you call the guys you can trust, other private security.

    You then call the police when it's over.





  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,397 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    Looks like a pickup truck from the outside front. Interesting video on several levels. Even when under attack, the guy riding shotgun was fiddling with a smartphone!
    That was my first reaction to this video- in a high risk transport job, the comms are a rose gold iPhone?  Shouldn’t you have... a radio or something instant?

    And the passenger seat Dude will forever be known as “Sidekick”
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • AlleyCatAlleyCat Posts: 470 Member
    edited May 3 #5

    Secret cash transfer you keep the van looking normal if possible, a leak somewhere in the bank maybe.

    If trying to keep in touch with other private security teams a smartphone may be best.



  • breamfisherbreamfisher Senior Member Posts: 13,555 Senior Member
    edited May 3 #6
    zorba said:
    Looks like a pickup truck from the outside front. Interesting video on several levels. Even when under attack, the guy riding shotgun was fiddling with a smartphone!
    That was my first reaction to this video- in a high risk transport job, the comms are a rose gold iPhone?  Shouldn’t you have... a radio or something instant?

    And the passenger seat Dude will forever be known as “Sidekick”
    Sidekick was doing what he was told, it seems.  I think I heard "Phone's ready.  Phone Josh, ask them where they are."

    Yeah, odd they don't have a radio, but there may be some reason, maybe afraid of someone on the inside leaking info?  I'd imagine it's harder to intercept a cell signal.
    Overkill is underrated.
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,174 Senior Member
    AlleyCat said:

    It's an armored cash transit van and the safest place for him to be.

    He wasn't calling law enforcement, in South Africa you call the guys you can trust, other private security.

    You then call the police when it's over.





    That looks like a pickup truck to me! But whatever - interesting vid fer sure.
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,253 Senior Member
    It looked to me like the driver reacted according to a pre thought out plan or one alternative plan of assorted options.

    He was frightened but prepared to act and defend under fire. Also brought a rifle to the gun fight. 

    Im glad I don't live there.
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,282 Senior Member
    edited May 4 #9
    Fortunately, you have options when you're in an armored vehicle. Safest place for them was in the vehicle, on the road, moving. It gave them time to react. By the time he enters the parking lot the bad guys must know any surprise they had going in is gone. He didn't have to stop but did anyway and the bad guys probably knew that wasn't a good sign also the longer they linger around the greater the odds of backup arriving.
    Assaults need to be executed quickly or they go downhill fast. I suspect the badguys realized they burned up to much time and aborted. Lucky for them.
    This gentleman's clear thinking changed the dynamic on ground. 👍
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • waipapa13waipapa13 Senior Member Posts: 857 Senior Member
    Impressive video, I've spent some time with former SAPS members, some of their stories can seem pretty unreal to anyone not familiar with SA. 

    Until you see clips like this and the dozens of others on YT, and you realise, that whilst impressive, situations like the CIT robbery above, are far from exceptional.
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