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Here are some interesting firearms terms according to the dictionary.
GermanShepherd Posts: 160 Member
edited May 2021 in General Firearms #1
any portable firearm, as a rifle, shotgun, or revolver
any firearm that can be held and fired with one hand; a revolver or a pistol
a short firearm intended to be held and fired with one hand
a handgun having a revolving chambered cylinder for holding a number of cartridges, which may be discharged in succession without reloading
riflea shoulder firearm with spiral grooves cut in the inner surface of the gun barrel to give the bullet a rotatory motion and thus a more precise trajectory
a smoothbore gun for firing small shots to kill birds and small quadrupeds, though often used with buckshot to kill larger animals
riot guna gun, especially a shotgun with a short barrel, for quelling riots rather than inflicting serious injury
a fully automatic pistol; submachine gun
a lightweight automatic or semiautomatic gun, fired from the shoulder or hip. Abbreviation: SMG
any of various automatic and semiautomatic military firearms utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge, designed for individual use.Compare assault rifle.
assault rifle1. a military rifle capable of both automatic and semiautomatic fire, utilizing an intermediate-power cartridge.
2. a nonmilitary weapon modeled on the military assault rifle, usually modified to allow only semiautomatic fire.
buttstockthe part of the stock located behind the breech mechanism of a firearm
- the wooden or metal piece to which the barrel and mechanism of a rifle are attached
- a part of an automatic weapon, as a machine gun, similar in position or function.
1. a light, gas-operated semiautomatic rifle
2. (formerly) a short rifle used in the cavalry
musketa heavy, large-caliber smoothbore gun for infantry soldiers, introduced in the 16th century: the predecessor of the modern rifle
a firearm that is loaded through the muzzle
What I gather from studying firearms terminology in the dictionary is that if it can't be fired from the shoulder, it's not a RIFLE. Legal, police and military definitions related to firearms may differ from how the dictionary defines these terms. In the army, one never dares refer to a RIFLE as a GUN though the dictionary defines GUN in terms of RIFLE and other firearms types. Apparently, rifles and machine guns are the only weapons having a STOCK according to the dictionary and stocks can't be plastic or synthetic.
The civilian AR type rifles and carbines you can buy over the counter ONLY permit semi-automatic fire and never (full) automatic fire. By the definitions of ASSAULT WEAPON and ASSAULT RIFLE in the dictionary, no civilian AR can ever strictly conform to the definition of ASSAULT RIFLE or ASSAULT WEAPON. The US military's M4 Carbine is, in fact, capable of full automatic fire though the dictionary restricts CARBINE to semi-automatic fire.
SLUG GUN is not defined in the dictionary. A SHOTGUN is defined as a SMOOTHBORE gun. What is a "shotgun" with a rifled barrel really? Often shotgun manufacturers advertise rifled barrels for these guns. Some gun writers refer to these as "slug guns". Though shotguns often have a BUTTSTOCK, a few don't. The dictionary doesn't require a SHOTGUN to have means to be fired from the shoulder. The dictionary also doesn't say a shotgun has to have any specific barrel length but some laws restrict its shortness.
If the dictionary were ever to include SLUG GUN, how should it accurately be defined?
The whole point of this thread is that people often don't understand "gun speak" well and much bad legislation can come to be on account of this lack of firearms fluency. The dictionary authors, for example, don't understand that shotguns often have parts called stocks.
The terms Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun and Firearm have specified definitions at a Federal level.
The ATF has defined a rifle as follows: "The term “Rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger."
Rifles must have a minimum barrel length (16") and minimum overall length (26"). Anything originally built or altered to be shorter than these measurements is defined as a "Firearm" and must be registered with the ATF.
A shotgun is defined as follows: The term “Shotgun” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder, and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
Shotguns must have a minimum barrel length (18") and minimum overall length (26"). Anything originally built or altered to be shorter than these measurements is defined as a "Firearm" and must be registered with the ATF.
A Pistol is defined as follows: The term “Pistol” means a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having:
There is no mention of a maximum barrel length in the ATF definition.
The ATF does not define a "Handgun" as far as I know but states normally do in their laws/regulations concerning activities like Concealed Carry and Hunting. The generally acceptable general definition is: Handgun is a firearm with a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. This is the definition in my state laws.
Many states further specify that a handgun does not exceed 12 inches measured from the two farthest points on the gun when dealing with Concealed Carry, and as another example Wyoming sets a 16" maximum limit on barrels of "handguns" in their hunting regulations.
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
It then seems as the ATF doesn't recognize a "shotgun" without a buttstock since that obviously can't be fired from the shoulder. What is a Mossberg 590 Shockwave then?
Hitler's buz saw
Old slab sides
And so many more......
I take it that cars with automatic transmissions were around a lot longer than BATFE. ATF came into vogue sometimes in the 1990's and was used in the media and gun publications a lot. Often when "ATF" is uttered it is in defense of gun rights and shows hatred for the existence of that Bureau. I would open a fifth of Scotch to celebrate the disbanding of this particular Bureau for good, speaking of the Alcohol (A) part.
Put down the dictionary, it's useless on this subject. Regardless of what you think or Webster tells you the 590 is a FIREARM. That is the legal definition from the BATF and the ONLY one that counts unless you want to spend the rest of your days hosted by a Federal Penitentiary.
If you are not aware of this, by all means look it up in the dictionary, or Google it and then share your newfound knowledge with the good folks on some automotive forums.
What crime have I committed? If you love BATF so much, please go marry an agent there.
Patience and tolerance are great virtues: please try them out yourself. If you want more substance, please go pan for gold. Don't read my handiwork then.
I meant cars with automatic transmissions, "clutch-less" cars, don't have clutch pedals that people step on.
I never suggested that one break any laws. If I say my smoothbore gun is a SHOTGUN or MARY JONES, then there's no crime there. If the ATF wants to call it a "dog turd" then that's their business.
You remind me of the guy who once asked me if I had "the thing you keep in your pocket that has the little lines on it that you use to measure things with"
I am sure that he had at least once in his life heard the words 'pocket rule' before then, but maybe his brain was wired differently than most, and he had challenges when attempting to intelligently communicate with others. In his own mind he was probably a genius.
For all I know, he became a politician. He was far too mentally challenged to make an honest living as an auto mechanic.