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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,368 Senior Member
    :popcorn:
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Elk creekElk creek Posts: 7,926 Senior Member
    Hmmm, the hell! An AR?🤣
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Short bolt with an interesting spring system=folding stock capability.  Interesting…
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Posts: 6,112 Senior Member
    My prediction: This is for the European military market. Inventory such as the Steyr AUG and G36 are aging, and don't adapt to modern optics, attachments, etc. 

    I bet Glock is designing this in the hopes of home field advantage when countries like Austria look to replace their equipment. 
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    edited May 2021 #6
    Who makes our M4's now?
    Colt or FN?

    Is a folding stock popular in Europe? 
    Might we ever transition from telescoping to folding?

    Have we reached the pinnacle of rifle modularity? Or could a new design offer improvement?
  • BamaakIIBamaakII Posts: 479 Member
    Elk creek said:
    Hmmm, the hell! An AR?🤣

     Different from an AR.  The annular gas system alone is new, and strange.  Not sure of the advantage.
  • BamaakIIBamaakII Posts: 479 Member
    My prediction: This is for the European military market. Inventory such as the Steyr AUG and G36 are aging, and don't adapt to modern optics, attachments, etc. 

    I bet Glock is designing this in the hopes of home field advantage when countries like Austria look to replace their equipment. 
    Well that is basically how Glock started
  • Elk creekElk creek Posts: 7,926 Senior Member
    BamaakII said:
    Elk creek said:
    Hmmm, the hell! An AR?🤣

     Different from an AR.  The annular gas system alone is new, and strange.  Not sure of the advantage.
    I didn’t click on the link, just took a WAG.....
    Aim higher, or get a bigger gun.
  • waipapa13waipapa13 Posts: 961 Senior Member
    My prediction: This is for the European military market. Inventory such as the Steyr AUG and G36 are aging, and don't adapt to modern optics, attachments, etc. 

    I bet Glock is designing this in the hopes of home field advantage when countries like Austria look to replace their equipment. 
    Yup, NZDF has quietly gotten rid of the AUG's that replaced the SLR.

    Replacement service rifle is an LMT MARS-L, the writing is pretty much on the wall for bullpups, especially for lower volume buyers (NZDF bought 9,000 to arm the three services).
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Who makes our M4's now?
    Colt or FN?

    Is a folding stock popular in Europe? 
    Might we ever transition from telescoping to folding?

    Have we reached the pinnacle of rifle modularity? Or could a new design offer improvement?
    It does not have to be exclusive one from the other.  Telescopic aids shooting and allows you to adapt the gun to different sized shooters and shooting styles.  Folding is good for transportation and stealth.   We finally have a company with. Folding stock adapter/bolt that allows folding AND firing with a folded stock if needed.  Long overdue in my mind.
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,858 Senior Member
    If Glock is smart, they're gonna ask themselves "Why do we have such a large share of the world pistol market?", and the answers are:

    Simple to learn.

    Simple to service.

    Durable.

    Reliable.

    Light weight.

    Affordable.

    The AR-15 has evolved to give a lot of that, and, as it stands, it's got one hell of an established infrastructure. - - to the point that any replacement has to not only be better, but be SO MUCH BETTER that tearing that infrastructure down seems justifiable.

    To be Glockish in the approach, the AR could do with a lot less roll pins, springs, and detents, and while the aluminum forgings were Da Bomb in the late '50's, polymer is the new aluminum.

    Yep - :popcorn:
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,928 Senior Member
    Interesting.

    It seems like Europe went SMG well we were going shotgun. Then we out did intermediate with a battle rifle, carbine, SMG, short range, long range, and everything else weapon.

    The servicing infrastructure does seem impenetrable. But if Glocks new carbine is accessorised brilliantly. Those items might find there way onto our existing rifles?
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