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Bond Arms Derringer - My Little Friend

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  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I’m trying to decide on either a 3.5” barrel in 9mm or .40 S&W next. 
    9mm is what I would go with,  if it were me.

    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Found a little pouch I wasn’t using for anything that fits on my belt. The Bond Arms fits perfectly and there is an additional pocket for Speed Strips as well. Keeps the gun from getting dusty and sweaty while I’m on the tractor. About the only thing not dusty and sweaty. 



    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • SpkSpk Posts: 4,839 Senior Member
    edited May 2021 #34
    Zee said:
    Ok, brain fart warning. I confused my .44 Spl GD handload with my .45 ACP ammo. 

    The .44 Spl GD is 200gr. 
    The .45 ACP GD is 185gr. 

    My bad. Too many numbers to keep track of. 
    That's still a 163 PF and nothing to sneeze at. By comparison, my Critical Duty 135 grain 9mm +P rounds out of a 4" barrel run about a 150 PF so that's not bad. Good for around the homestead when you don't feel you need more.

    Go with the 9mm with your 3.5" barrel, it would be pleasant-ish to shoot.


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  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    How was the extraction of the fired birdshot case?

    I have had an issue using a revolver.

  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    NN said:
    How was the extraction of the fired birdshot case?

    I have had an issue using a revolver.

    Nothing really pulls out of the chamber easily. The cleaned, the better. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    I think I need a 3.5” barrel in 9mm and .45 Colt/.410 as well. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    Now you are talking
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,763 Senior Member
    It certainly beats the brass up
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  • gunner81gunner81 Posts: 683 Senior Member
    A 410 round out of that should be an adventure hang on LOL but on the flip side for snakes that would be great
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    edited May 2021 #41
    gunner81 said:
    A 410 round out of that should be an adventure hang on LOL but on the flip side for snakes that would be great
    3” Mag loads are a handful out of my friends. 
    2-3/4” are so bad. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    NN said:
    How was the extraction of the fired birdshot case?

    I have had an issue using a revolver.

    Same.  It locked up my 325PD by pushing back against the recoil shield, and then because it flared out and mechanically locked against the chamber shoulder.... well, it took a mallet to open the cylinder.


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  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Sorry for this having nothing to do with the subject, but noticing your target backup, I am wondering if those railroad ties can withstand piercing from the typical AR .223 round. I'm asking because although I live in a housing subdivision, the lots here are all over 1+ acres, and it would be legal in Florida to have a private gun range here if certain other requirements are met.
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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Sorry for this having nothing to do with the subject, but noticing your target backup, I am wondering if those railroad ties can withstand piercing from the typical AR .223 round. I'm asking because although I live in a housing subdivision, the lots here are all over 1+ acres, and it would be legal in Florida to have a private gun range here if certain other requirements are met.
     Would not trust them to stop a straight on hit. I usually shoot steel there and have the ties to stop splash. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,471 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    gunner81 said:
    A 410 round out of that should be an adventure hang on LOL but on the flip side for snakes that would be great
    3” Mag loads are a handful out of my friends. 
    2-3/4” are so bad. 
    If you're able able to find one, these are fun and take 3" shells. You could probably fit other things in it but would risk a catastrophic boom.
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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    I remember those!  Used to sell them when I worked in a gun store in the early 90s. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Make_My_DayMake_My_Day Posts: 7,927 Senior Member
    Zee said:
      Would not trust them to stop a straight on hit. I usually shoot steel there and have the ties to stop splash. 

    OK, thanks. When I saw what you had, I thought it might be a relatively easy way to make a safe backstop for a backyard range. Perhaps something additional might make it safe for shooting into it, like making a double wall out of the RR ties and putting about a foot of sand in between walls? There really isn't much to hit behind my property. It backs up to a cattle ranch. The topography rises uphill from the shallow valley I'm in to a hilltop at least 25-50 feet higher than the target would be, and there are no cattle back there until the late afternoon-early evening when they are grazing near my land.
    JOE MCCARTHY WAS RIGHT:
    THE DEMOCRATS ARE THE NEW COMMUNISTS!
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    NN said:
    How was the extraction of the fired birdshot case?

    I have had an issue using a revolver.

    Nothing really pulls out of the chamber easily. The cleaned, the better. 

    Yeah thought it would be like that; need the ones with the blue cap like this .22lr here..
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,471 Senior Member
    Zee said:
      Would not trust them to stop a straight on hit. I usually shoot steel there and have the ties to stop splash. 

    OK, thanks. When I saw what you had, I thought it might be a relatively easy way to make a safe backstop for a backyard range. Perhaps something additional might make it safe for shooting into it, like making a double wall out of the RR ties and putting about a foot of sand in between walls? There really isn't much to hit behind my property. It backs up to a cattle ranch. The topography rises uphill from the shallow valley I'm in to a hilltop at least 25-50 feet higher than the target would be, and there are no cattle back there until the late afternoon-early evening when they are grazing near my land.
    I dont know if you could incorporate it one way or another but I use rubber mulch in my test fire drum at the shop. It stopped 7mm Rem Mag in about a foot. It's also pretty cheap and easier to deal with than sand. Just a thought.
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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Zee said:
      Would not trust them to stop a straight on hit. I usually shoot steel there and have the ties to stop splash. 

    OK, thanks. When I saw what you had, I thought it might be a relatively easy way to make a safe backstop for a backyard range. Perhaps something additional might make it safe for shooting into it, like making a double wall out of the RR ties and putting about a foot of sand in between walls? There really isn't much to hit behind my property. It backs up to a cattle ranch. The topography rises uphill from the shallow valley I'm in to a hilltop at least 25-50 feet higher than the target would be, and there are no cattle back there until the late afternoon-early evening when they are grazing near my land.
    I have dirt in those tires if I want to shoot cardboard, which I haven’t yet. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Ordered a new grip and received it today. MUCH better!!!  It’s smooth, pretty, and affords a lower grip which makes pulling the trigger MUCH easier!!   And.......still fits in my little pouch. 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • SpkSpk Posts: 4,839 Senior Member
    And it's really purdy, that's an important factor 😁
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    And it's really purdy, that's an important factor 😁

    Most people don't talk about his hands that way..... ;)
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • SpkSpk Posts: 4,839 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    And it's really purdy, that's an important factor 😁

    Most people don't talk about his hands that way..... ;)
    Regular hand model, that he is.
    Zee said:
    ...
    And.......still fits in my little pouch.

    I wasn't judging. 🤣
    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Spk said:
    Spk said:
    And it's really purdy, that's an important factor 😁

    Most people don't talk about his hands that way..... ;)
    Regular hand model, that he is.
    Zee said:
    ...
    And.......still fits in my little pouch.

    I wasn't judging. 🤣
    Good. I was feeling a bit insecure. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,360 Senior Member
    Does it fit in your sporran?
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  • JustsomedudeJustsomedude Posts: 1,471 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Does it fit in your sporran?
    Can't answer for him but mine does. 
    We've been conditioned to believe that obedience is virtuous and voting is freedom- 
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    Does it fit in your sporran?
    👍🏻
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Ordered a new grip and received it today. MUCH better!!!  It’s smooth, pretty, and affords a lower grip which makes pulling the trigger MUCH easier!!   And.......still fits in my little pouch. 

    Nice grips!  That’s a wild looking handgun…
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,429 Senior Member
    Ok, here is a gunsmith question. I know the obvious answer but I think there is more to it. 

    The .45 ACP Shotshell rattles back and forth in the bottom barrel. Hence the two light primer strikes. Yes, the radius at the case mouth causes this. 
    But, when the shell is in the top barrel, it rattles considerably less and fires without problem. 
    Is this a chamber issue or a lockup issue?  The top barrel being closer to the pivot point than the bottom one. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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