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I digress. Bearman 9mm Derringer.

ZeeZee Senior MemberPosts: 25,465 Senior Member
You can’t order a barrel from Bond Arms. They only sell to FFL Dealers. They have a 15 week waiting list. My local FFL is dragging their feet trying to get an account set up with Bond Arms. It was late. I’d had a few drinks. It was only $150. 

9mm Bearman Derringer

Father forgive me for I have sinned. 
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    edited June 3 #2
    To say she is a cheap whore is an understatement. But she goes bang most of the time. 
    I wanted a 9mm because..........ammo. And mostly because the snake shot in 9mm base a case mouth that will headspace. It’s a snake gun for me. But, might as well try real ammo, right?

    Used 124gr Speer Gold Dot. 

    At 5 yards, the top barrel shot high (top 2 rounds) and the bottom barrel shot.......less high. 

    Trigger pull wasn’t as bad as all the reviews dictate. You just have to pull down and not back. 
    Recoil was abrupt and unpleasant. Not deal breaking painful. But, rather unpleasant. Gloves help. 
    I did have 2 FTF with the bottom barrel. In the 30 something rounds I fired today. Not sure what that’s about. They both fired on the second try. 
    The barrel does come loose after several rounds fired. I think that might have had something to do with the FTF. 
    Tightening of the flat head screw periodically seems to help. 
    For laughs, I tried 25 yards. Started aiming about half target low which resulted in the low shots. Holding bottom of the steel and left edge resulted in the middle shot. 

    Note to self, 30-40 rounds in an evening will make your trigger finger go numb. 
    Velocity out of a 2.5” barrel is better that I anticipated. 
    Tried snake shot at home and I can say that the bigger shot option from CCI is a BIG MEH in comparison to the #12 shot version. It’s a dead snake. But, considerably less shot and density  at 3 feet. 


    I will be picking up some #12 shot shells when available. 
    Water jugs at 5 yards. 




    Expansion was better than imagined from the 124gr Speer GD at 1,050 fps MV. 
    The bullet exited three jugs. Exiting the side of the third, it bounced off the left barrier wall and came to rest at the base of the right wall. 

    Once done shooting for the day, I immediately removed the trigger guard which was only held on by two Allen screws. 

    For $150 it is a good snake gun. Not a serious defensive weapon by any means. 
    Derringers are cheap and fun. Albeit painfully so. They have a narrow niche that’s no reason NOT to have at least 1. 
    I have three now and I want a .22 lr one as well. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,594 Senior Member
    I am unsure if you will be forgiven by some.  I will under the condition that you keep the 2 shooters for snakes and fun.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    I am unsure if you will be forgiven by some.  I will under the condition that you keep the 2 shooters for snakes and fun.
    Understandable. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 13,292 Senior Member
    Why have the gap in the bottom of the trigger guard, that makes no sense, could butt up to the frame and still be removable. Shop on dude!
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    CHIRO1989 said:
    Why have the gap in the bottom of the trigger guard, that makes no sense, could butt up to the frame and still be removable. Shop on dude!
    Yeah. It was quite ugly-er. Had to go. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • earlyagainearlyagain Posts: 7,569 Senior Member
    That's actually pretty good.

    I saw a hawk dive down into thick grass and retrieve something yesterday. It landed in a nearby tree. When I got closer, I saw it was eating a snake.
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    Ok, one more…. But then that’s it young man… 
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    Ok, one more…. But then that’s it young man… 
    You’re not the Boss of me!!!

    Theres a .22 Mag.........and a .45 Colt.....
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    Ok, one more…. But then that’s it young man… 
    You’re not the Boss of me!!!

    Theres a .22 Mag.........and a .45 Colt.....
    You might be developing a drinking problem… 😬
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 11,594 Senior Member
    It just might be time for an intervention 
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • gunner81gunner81 Member Posts: 513 Senior Member
    If you can't get the barrels you may as well get the guns
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    Ok, one more…. But then that’s it young man… 
    You’re not the Boss of me!!!

    Theres a .22 Mag.........and a .45 Colt.....
    You might be developing a drinking problem… 😬
    I have no problem drinking!  Online shopping addiction. 😎
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    It just might be time for an intervention 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    Serious question, if one can truly be serious about a derringer, would a .22lr and lifetime supply of ammo be better or a .22 Mag with more power and limited ammo?
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • zorbazorba Senior Member Posts: 24,470 Senior Member
    I never heard of this one before. This guy hates his:
    Careful Zee - this is a gateway drug to stupid and silly firearms! Keep it up and you'll end up like me, buying stupid guns for their own sake like $100 bill Hi-Points and Altors! Or even NAA revolvers for that matter.

    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    zorba said:
    I never heard of this one before. This guy hates his:
    Careful Zee - this is a gateway drug to stupid and silly firearms! Keep it up and you'll end up like me, buying stupid guns for their own sake like $100 bill Hi-Points and Altors! Or even NAA revolvers for that matter.

    I watched a couple of his reviews. While some valid concerns, he’s not the greatest subject matter expert. Hell, very few on YouTube overall. 

    I do find my pendulum swinging polar opposite of my past taste in firearms. Scary. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 11,540 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    After having a run-in with a diamondback in my driveway last week, I am seriously considering a .22LR version for the express purpose of having rat shot ready for snakes.  
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,348 Senior Member
    I see from your accurate depiction, snakes in your area are inflicted with the gout.......

    I think for as much as it will get shot (two shells at a time) a box of .22mag will last awhile. Someday the presence of a High Standard and available cash will appear at the same time.... maybe.


    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    GunNut said:
    Two points:

    1- It looks waaaaaaaaay better without the silly trigger guard.
    2- No more access to your wallet while drinking rum… 😱
    But........the .22lr is only $160!!!!   
    After having a run-in with a diamondback in my driveway last week, I am seriously considering a .22LR version for the express purpose of having rat shot ready for snakes.  
    Yep. Cheap and handy. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    edited June 3 #23
    Starving artist syndrome. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Serious question, if one can truly be serious about a derringer, would a .22lr and lifetime supply of ammo be better or a .22 Mag with more power and limited ammo?
    Since you already own several that are better snake guns than either of these I’m assuming this is just a fun gun.  .22LR
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    Serious question, if one can truly be serious about a derringer, would a .22lr and lifetime supply of ammo be better or a .22 Mag with more power and limited ammo?
    Since you already own several that are better snake guns than either of these I’m assuming this is just a fun gun.  .22LR
    Yeah. A “just because” gun. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    Zee said:k
    GunNut said:
    Zee said:
    Serious question, if one can truly be serious about a derringer, would a .22lr and lifetime supply of ammo be better or a .22 Mag with more power and limited ammo?
    Since you already own several that are better snake guns than either of these I’m assuming this is just a fun gun.  .22LR
    Yeah. A “just because” gun. 
    Then yep, .22lr would be my pick.  Be a great pocket can and rock killer.
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • JKPJKP Senior Member Posts: 2,381 Senior Member
    Heck, I've got a couple of Talon derringers that you could probably get for a six pack...
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,012 Senior Member
    When drinking rum, you buy one of these..


    Admit it.  You were drinking White Claws and wine coolers again.... 
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 25,465 Senior Member
    Jay said:
    When drinking rum, you buy one of these..


    Admit it.  You were drinking White Claws and wine coolers again.... 

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GunNutGunNut Posts: 7,642 Senior Member
    What the hell are White Claws?!?!?
    Old West Saying: God created men, but Col. Sam Colt made them equal.

    General George Patton:  “Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.”

  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,012 Senior Member
    GunNut said:
    What the hell are White Claws?!?!?
    Apparently some kind of alcoholic seltzer that's popular with the ladies these days...  

    I was able to hack into his online shopping account. He has one of these in his cart... 

     :p 
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