Kimber now makes a Glock……like handgun. Just announced today.

Wambli Ska

The new Kimber Mako.  Looks nice!  Kinda like a Glock and a Sig 365 got married…

Wambli Ska

MSRP: $599 with the milled slide and $799 with the CT optics factory supplied.  Not a bad price point.

bellcat

saw it on Honest Outlaw today….looks nice

Wambli Ska

Sounds like the took the wall out of the Glock trigger.  Intriguing…

Zee

Bore axis looks higher than I like. Like an HK. 

Maybe it’s just the picture angle. 

Wambli Ska

Zee said:

Bore axis looks higher than I like. Like an HK. 

Maybe it’s just the picture angle. 

Yes but look at how high the grip comes up the back.  It allows you to get your shooting hand hand just under the bore axis.  They set it up like the 365 and the Walters, two guns that do a nice job of recoil control.  I also think the mag release can be pushed in from either direction making it truly ambidextrous, and the nigh sights are already part of the package.

The one issue I can find is they gave it that short grip which I find conducive to pinching when doing fast mag changes.  That’s one of the reasons I went 43X over the SiG, BUT that also enhances concealment with the flush mags so there is that.

JKP

I might have to have one of those. 

Wambli Ska

One of the classes I teach is gun handgun maintenance for new gun owners and in that class folks bring in their new acquisitions to learn how to field strip and clean/lube them.  After taking apart a bunch of S&Ws, Rugers, etc, one of the things I’ve truly learned to appreciate is the simplicity of the Glock takedown.  I’m really glad to see Kimber adopted it.

Bigslug

Numbing... absolutely numbing.

zorba

I like the grip texture going up above the trigger.

Jay

Zee said:

Bore axis looks higher than I like. Like an HK. 

Maybe it’s just the picture angle. 

Exactly what I thought, just based of the pictures. That's the reason I'm not too fond of HKs and XDs. 

It also appears that the bore axis is high, while the trigger is low.. There's a lot of "meat" between the top of the trigger guard and the bottom of the slide, and it appears a lot of "meat" between the bottom of the slide and the center of bore axis.  So while you might be able to get your hand high on the grip, your finger might be reaching down for the trigger.  Again, maybe it's just the pictures. The only way to know would be to hold one and/or shoot it. I won't be rushing out to buy one. Especially since it won't fill a roll I don't already have covered.

zorba

What role does a roll play?

Wambli Ska

Jay said:

Zee said:

Bore axis looks higher than I like. Like an HK. 

Maybe it’s just the picture angle. 

Exactly what I thought, just based of the pictures. That's the reason I'm not too fond of HKs and XDs. 

It also appears that the bore axis is high, while the trigger is low.. There's a lot of "meat" between the top of the trigger guard and the bottom of the slide, and it appears a lot of "meat" between the bottom of the slide and the center of bore axis.  So while you might be able to get your hand high on the grip, your finger might be reaching down for the trigger.  Again, maybe it's just the pictures. The only way to know would be to hold one and/or shoot it. I won't be rushing out to buy one. Especially since it won't fill a roll I don't already have covered.

I really have no need for one either but I'd like to get my hands on one to see how it feels.  Your observation is spot on that when your hand comes up hight on the backstop the trigger on guns designed like this one tend to have your trigger finger reaching down to the trigger.  

I've worked with a few guns that are configured that way and actually I find it comfortable and naturally pointing and I like the way it pushes the recoil into the web of my hand.   My old PPS was shaped that way and stupidly I sold that gun because I was on a 1911 kick.  That was one of the most accurate and shootable guns I've ever owned.  MUCH more controllable (for me) than the Glock 43 ever was.

Wambli Ska

zorba said:

What role does a roll play?

You're not body shaming the French model right???? 

Jay

Somebody has to do it, since Sam isn't around any more to catch the inevitable grammar mistakes around here. 

breamfisher

Let's see...
Straight trigger
U-notch rear sight
Tritium sights!  You don't want to appendix carry that - the radiation would be too near the wedding tackle
Lots of texture
Potentially high bore axis
Sold with a red dot (batteries!)
The back of the mag release is flat, but the scallop it sits in is round.
Looks like there's 7 rear serrations, while a mako shark has 5 gill slits.  
Also, mako sharks are more blue than black...
What more can people not like?

I do find it interesting that the slide's not open on the top, but rather has the ejection port on the side (see photo).  Some have said that will lessen the likelihood of stuff getting into the action when carried AIWB or IWB. That seems like it would be dubious.  Kimber says it's to keep stuff from getting onto the optic, and that seems like a good idea.  

buckaroo

breamfisher said:

What more can people not like?

Kimber is high-end junk in reality.

It will be interesting to see if they get any better now that they left behind all the former eastern block commie machinist in New Jersey and settled down in Alabama.
I'm not paying that kind of money when my $199.99 dollar Ruger EC9s is one of the best kept secrets with a trigger out of the box that rivals anything.   As long as I have 7 onboard I'm good to go. (and yes I do like a safety only wish it was ambidextrous as I pocket carry without a holster)

Wambli Ska

buckaroo said:

breamfisher said:

What more can people not like?

Kimber is high-end junk in reality.

It will be interesting to see if they get any better now that they left behind all the former eastern block commie machinist in New Jersey and settled down in Alabama.
I'm not paying that kind of money when my $199.99 dollar Ruger EC9s is one of the best kept secrets with a trigger out of the box that rivals anything.   As long as I have 7 onboard I'm good to go. (and yes I do like a safety only wish it was ambidextrous as I pocket carry without a holster)

Well, if nothing else you do have some very strong opinions…  would love to know, based on what data?  You own any?

buckaroo

Do you ?

Wambli Ska

buckaroo said:

Do you ?

4 of them currently.  Probably about 8+ Of their handguns and 5-6 of their rifles over the years and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM outstanding guns!  So my opinion is hands on and personal.

buckaroo

A regular daddy war bucks uh.    No doubt you are emotionally attached, how can one bad mouth something when they have that much money tied up into something right.   The truth can even you smack you in the face.

I learn my lesson well of trying to own something high end on a shoe string budget, once own a vehicle made by Mercedes.    It was $25 dollars just to shake the mechanic hand.  And the entire organization top down is shady.

Wambli Ska

buckaroo said:

A regular daddy war bucks uh.    No doubt you are emotionally attached, how can one bad mouth something when they have that much money tied up into something right.   The truth can even you smack you in the face.

I learn my lesson well of trying to own something high end on a shoe string budget, once own a vehicle made by Mercedes.    It was $25 dollars just to shake the mechanic hand.  And the entire organization top down is shady.

  

Wow you just have to take a dive to the mud and get personal every time you are disagreed with right?  Sorry if I don't go there with you.

So I understand, your basis for putting something down is that you can't afford it?  Ok, now I know how to measure your opinions.

I like my Kimbers because they are outstanding, accurate and reliable guns.  Price point means nothing to me unless I see a large gap in value/performance versus price.  I don't see that with Kimber at all based on my own extensive personal experience with their products.  

Thanks for your explanation!

buckaroo

Grow a pair dude, I'm not playing your games.   You got challenged and it hurt your pride right.  With your little fan club here.

Wambli Ska

buckaroo said:

Grow a pair dude, I'm not playing your games.   You got challenged and it hurt your pride right.

Yeah that's it!  You really are cheap entertainment... 

buckaroo

Yeah, and you keep coming back for more is that it.  Every gun forum on the internet is loaded with them.

Zee

I have had no problem with Kimber rifles or 1911s. 

buckaroo

Feel better now Wambli, you got some validation. 

Zee

Though, from a simply ergonomics look, I’m not interested in this particular handgun shown in the OP. 

I’ll still hold and play with one, given the opportunity to make an educated decision. As opposed to one lacking true experience. 

buckaroo

One need not go to Afghanistan to know it's a ****-hole.

Wambli Ska

buckaroo said:

Yeah, and you keep coming back for more is that it.  Every gun forum on the internet is loaded with them.

Not this one.  We strive to keep our opinions and information factual.  I don't know anyone here that just pulls data out of their anal archive to post because we don't usually let it ride for long without questioning it.

buckaroo

Enjoy your new Kimber.