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In the snubby game now.

JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
Got a fair deal on a new S&W 360J.  It's rated for 357 Magnum, but I intend to use 38 Special (and maybe +P).  I shot 50 or so rounds today and stuck to 5 yards for today. 

I got accustomed to the sights and rapid fire was quite successful (5 shots in 3 seconds).  I am first of all quite enamored with this gun.  It's a lot of fun to shoot.  But next up, I start training from concealment and working on drills and shooting/moving, etc.

Has anyone tested hollow base wadcutters loaded in reverse for .38 caliber?  I remember some testing around here like that with larger calibers.



“There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers

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  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,769 Senior Member
    Looks like you found a keeper.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Gene LGene L Posts: 12,817 Senior Member
    Looking good.  A .357 in such a small, lightweight gun would be a handful.  Nothing wrong with a .38 Special.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,874 Senior Member
    There's a couple good "snubbie" HP loads out there that don't suffer too much from the lack of velocity and penetration that comes with the short barrel.  One other option would be to just rock 130 grain flat point FMJ's that are becoming pretty common target loads. . .with a WFN profile bullet.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Wadcutters in the 130gr range are acceptable to me as well.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,429 Senior Member
    FWIW, I had a Scandium J frame for a while and .357 mag premium SD loads of lower weight than 130gr were manageable for me.  I could empty the gun in seconds to COM.  But I think I’d be fine with WCs in the gun too.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    Zee and I (mostly Zee) have done some interesting tests with Matt’s HBWC bullets in .38 in both water and gel. They are interesting, but will not give the penetration you would need for SD.  

    The jacketed wadcutter hollow points were much more interesting, and what I have loaded in my Model 10 snub right now.  Let me find the link
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
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  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Posts: 12,429 Senior Member
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • bellcatbellcat Posts: 2,040 Senior Member
    Good looking piece! I’d like a snubby 
    "Kindness is the language the deaf can hear and the blind can see." Mark Twain
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,436 Senior Member
    Looks good. I’ve reversed several caliber Matt’s Bullets HBWC Bullets. They work well. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • zorbazorba Posts: 25,287 Senior Member
    SUPER-SNUB!!!
    -Zorba, "The Veiled Male"

    "If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
    )O(
  • LinefinderLinefinder Posts: 7,856 Senior Member
    My oldest sister worked a fairly high profile job with the DA's office. They decided that her being armed was a good idea. Their idea of a "good idea" was a S&W snubbie in 44 Mag. I bought her a LadySmith in .38 Spl. I don't know what she did with the 44 Mag, but I'm pretty sure she never fired it.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Gene LGene L Posts: 12,817 Senior Member
    I'll try here to post the ballistic results from a 360j.  A positive review with some surprising ballastic numbers.  Check it out.

    Review: Smith & Wesson Model 360 Airweight - Handguns (handgunsmag.com)


    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Posts: 6,583 Senior Member
    Gene L said:
    I'll try here to post the ballistic results from a 360j.  A positive review with some surprising ballastic numbers.  Check it out.

    Review: Smith & Wesson Model 360 Airweight - Handguns (handgunsmag.com)


    Not bad, 1.9" barrel and all.  I don't have a chrono that I can shoot over anymore (only Magnetospeed for rifles), but I may try and borrow one to see what I am getting in some 38spl+P loads.  But, 140-158gr wadcutters at 600-700 FPS will penetrate quite reliably, so I am not overly worried about knowing exact numbers.  It's a light gun for summer carry and NPEs, and the prverbial "get off me" gun.
    “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.” – Will Rogers
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    JasonMPD said:
    Got a fair deal on a new S&W 360J.  It's rated for 357 Magnum, but I intend to use 38 Special (and maybe +P).  I shot 50 or so rounds today and stuck to 5 yards for today. 

    I got accustomed to the sights and rapid fire was quite successful (5 shots in 3 seconds).  I am first of all quite enamored with this gun.  It's a lot of fun to shoot.  But next up, I start training from concealment and working on drills and shooting/moving, etc.

    Has anyone tested hollow base wadcutters loaded in reverse for .38 caliber?  I remember some testing around here like that with larger calibers.



    I'm into snubby revolvers too but they are for personal security and not competition. I have a Smith Airweight 642 and a Smith Governor on the way. Snubbies and/or small-frame revolvers are to facilitate ease of concealed carry and stowage in tight places like kitchen drawers, glove compartments and medicine chests. 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,362 Senior Member
    edited January 2022 #17
    JasonMPD said:
    Got a fair deal on a new S&W 360J.  It's rated for 357 Magnum, but I intend to use 38 Special (and maybe +P).  I shot 50 or so rounds today and stuck to 5 yards for today. 

    I got accustomed to the sights and rapid fire was quite successful (5 shots in 3 seconds).  I am first of all quite enamored with this gun.  It's a lot of fun to shoot.  But next up, I start training from concealment and working on drills and shooting/moving, etc.

    Has anyone tested hollow base wadcutters loaded in reverse for .38 caliber?  I remember some testing around here like that with larger calibers.



    I'm into snubby revolvers too but they are for personal security and not competition. I have a Smith Airweight 642 and a Smith Governor on the way. Snubbies and/or small-frame revolvers are to facilitate ease of concealed carry and stowage in tight places like kitchen drawers, glove compartments and medicine chests. 
    Thank you for that synopsis on the use of a snub nose revolver...I have several of them laying around and had no freaking idea what to do with them or what they were for.....
    You do indeed have a gift for stating the obvious...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • skwirrelskwirrel Posts: 182 Member
    edited January 2022 #18
    I took my last deer with a SP101 in .357.
    Live long and prosper.
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