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H&R returns in an unexpected way

bullsi1911bullsi1911 ModeratorPosts: 12,046 Senior Member
When the parent company of Palmetto State Armory bought the rights to Harrington &Richardson, I had some expectations that they would resurrect some of the cool guns of H&R. But this was not at all what I expected 



This is super cool. They bought NoDakSpud, and have the NDS team making retro ARs under the H&R brand with period correct engraving. 

I guess I’ll be OK waiting for a reissue of the Handi-Rifle. 
To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov

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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,467 Senior Member
    I’d rather have the Handi-Rifles. 😢
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,145 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I’d rather have the Handi-Rifles. 😢
    Me too
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,666 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    I’d rather have the Handi-Rifles. 😢
    ..... or the breaktop revolvers.


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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,119 Senior Member
    Those were fun...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • bellcatbellcat Senior Member Posts: 2,036 Senior Member
    Or my track and field starter pistol 
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,332 Senior Member
    Hey look!  Another AR-15!


    Whelm

    Me
    WWJMBD?

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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,362 Senior Member
    I spoke to my nephew today, I don't know where he got his information (SHOT Show), NEF will no longer make the Handi Rifle. They are going to concentrate on replicas like the M16, M1 Garand, M 14 and M1 carbine.  

    Anybody heard this?
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,467 Senior Member

    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 12,046 Senior Member
    I heard on another forum (from one of the NDS employees), that they are starting with the retro builds to get capitol flowing, then will look at the other H&R products. Handi-Rifle is on the list, but will take a major redesign to make it compatible with modern manufacturing. 

    There was too many manual steps in the old H&R/ NEF rifles. 
    To make something simple is a thousand times more difficult than to make something complex.
    -Mikhail Kalashnikov
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,119 Senior Member
    Hmmmm...M-14s....
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,332 Senior Member
    I heard on another forum (from one of the NDS employees), that they are starting with the retro builds to get capitol flowing, then will look at the other H&R products. Handi-Rifle is on the list, but will take a major redesign to make it compatible with modern manufacturing. 

    There was too many manual steps in the old H&R/ NEF rifles. 
    This logic makes my brain hurt.

    There is A LOT of pent up demand for the affordable Handy Rifle.

    I don't know ANYBODY that's foaming at the mouth to get an M16-A1 knockoff. . .

    Tooling up to produce GOOD Garands, M1 Carbines, and M14's (if true) is gonna be EEEEEEXXXXXXPENNNNNNNSIIIIIIIIIVE.  I'm ALL ABOUT the old heavy metal, and would love to see it happen, but I probably wouldn't be buying it, and I really have to question how many actually would.  Can't decently scope them.  Can't readily red-dot and flashlight them.  The ammo on two of them requires more man behind the trigger than seems to be common these days. . .
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Senior Member Posts: 1,569 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    I heard on another forum (from one of the NDS employees), that they are starting with the retro builds to get capitol flowing, then will look at the other H&R products. Handi-Rifle is on the list, but will take a major redesign to make it compatible with modern manufacturing. 

    There was too many manual steps in the old H&R/ NEF rifles. 
    This logic makes my brain hurt.

    There is A LOT of pent up demand for the affordable Handy Rifle.

    I don't know ANYBODY that's foaming at the mouth to get an M16-A1 knockoff. . .

    Tooling up to produce GOOD Garands, M1 Carbines, and M14's (if true) is gonna be EEEEEEXXXXXXPENNNNNNNSIIIIIIIIIVE.  I'm ALL ABOUT the old heavy metal, and would love to see it happen, but I probably wouldn't be buying it, and I really have to question how many actually would.  Can't decently scope them.  Can't readily red-dot and flashlight them.  The ammo on two of them requires more man behind the trigger than seems to be common these days. . .
    There is a zero percent chance a corporate finance guy wants their company to invest in the tooling and employee talent to build a low dollar, low volume product like the Handi Rifle.

    On the M16 side, they only have to invest in the working capital to buy most (if not all) of the parts and medium skilled workers to assemble them.  As they sell product, they buy more parts.

    To the extent they decide to make parts in-house, they get to select which parts, what tools to invest in, and how much skilled labor they need.  
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,032 Senior Member
    I’d love to see some new H&R marked M1 Garand receivers.
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • JaphyJaphy Posts: 275 Member
    I for one would like to see more TC (tactical cowboy) offerings. 
  • MichakavMichakav Senior Member Posts: 2,907 Senior Member
    I do love the retro roll marks. No desire for an A1 though.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,467 Senior Member
    CVA has done a good job of replacing the Handi-Rifle with their Scout line. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,467 Senior Member
    Disregard, just looked them up, their prices have gone up $100!!!  They are going for what bolt guns went for 2 years ago. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 114 Member
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  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,971 Senior Member
    Color me interested. I've been on the waiting list for a Brownell's retro for about a year.
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,423 Senior Member
    They could shift gears and make single shot AR rifles. At tleast the ones that will fit in the action. I've seen single shot ARs

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  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,362 Senior Member
    If they could redesign the Handi-Rifle with better tolerances, it could be the poor man's contender. It would be nice to see TC get some competition. 
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,496 Senior Member
    SSK is bringing out the original Contender.
    Whether the G-2 or Encore continues to be made will be interesting.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,332 Senior Member
    SSK is bringing out the original Contender.
    Whether the G-2 or Encore continues to be made will be interesting.
    This would be good!

    While I don't fully "get" the whole SP / SSP game, I always did appreciate the workmanship of the original T.C.'s.  Truth be told, I'd probably rather have that mechanism in a rifle than be locked into the single caliber format of the Handi Rifle.  Especially since it can go rimfire or center.

    More expensive up front, but cheaper to re-caliber with a barrel than buying multiple single shots.

    If they re-tool the Handi for easy barrel changes, then we'd really have something.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,362 Senior Member
    I had 14 Barrels and all fit my frame fine. I still have five barrels for my Handi-Rifle, 20 and 16 Smooth bore, 12 gauge rifled slug, 243 and 270. My wish would be for the NEF Handi to be licensed as pistol and rifle like the contender.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,976 Senior Member
    SSK is bringing out the original Contender.
    Whether the G-2 or Encore continues to be made will be interesting.
    interesting.  JD is a very smart man,  I'm guessing he didn't go into this 1/2 donkey'd
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,496 Senior Member
    JD sold SSK
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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