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I can't pick my two new guns up from my local FFL yet.

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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,435 Senior Member
    The humanity, Hope he never needs real work done by experts. 




    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,532 Senior Member
    edited January 22 #93
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,408 Senior Member
    On re-reading the OP's first few post in this thread. . .

    The FFL undergoing the unfortunate incident of a sick child initially got the business because he charged ten dollars less for the transfer than what had been his "regular" FFL.

    #1.  If I were the afflicted FFL, I would not be overly concerned about a transfer fee bargain shopper who sweats ten bucks "lawyering up"

    #2.  If I were the lawyer being consulted, I would say, "Dude. . .do you realize how much more than ten bucks I'm going to charge you once I start the clock?"

    #3.  If I were the judge that this got brought before, I would cite the OP for "Public Douchebaggery" and require him to reimburse any fees the FFL incurred in being summoned to court over a matter of such a dire nature on his part and of such frivolity on the OP's part.

    In short, the world is a very big place and it does not revolve around you.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    A lot of truth in those statements.  I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.

    Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack.  It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals.  BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world.  For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.   


    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,762 Senior Member
    edited January 22 #96
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    A lot of truth in those statements.  I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.

    Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack.  It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals.  BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world.  For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.   


    Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    A lot of truth in those statements.  I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.

    Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack.  It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals.  BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world.  For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.   


    Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.

    Mike
    I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 25,146 Senior Member
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    A lot of truth in those statements.  I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.

    Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack.  It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals.  BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world.  For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.   


    Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.

    Mike
    I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
    Well with pistol/revolver shooting it helped if you could shoot well before you got there  ;)
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    NN said:
    Shooting at the range is one thing.
    Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
    Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
    Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
    These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
    A lot of truth in those statements.  I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.

    Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack.  It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals.  BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world.  For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.   


    Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.

    Mike
    I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
    Well with pistol/revolver shooting it helped if you could shoot well before you got there  ;)
    So I’ve noticed!!!  But to be fair, EVERY one I’ve worked with has been a thoroughly eager and enthusiastic learner that came to me with no ego to defend.  Marines are 👍👍 in my book! 
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 18,145 Senior Member
    When I was in (69-74) the way we were taught to shoot the 1911 was one-handed (Classic Bullseye shooting...)Somewhere along the line, someone figured out that was not the most advantageous way to shoot a handgun...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 2,435 Senior Member
    Shot far more as a civilian than I ever did in my short time in the US Army Cavalry.

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,577 Senior Member
    In an International Competition, I faced every Military service in the US and multiple Services World Wide………..the only ones we feared were the Marine Recon Unit with their custom 1911s as we faced them with our Beretta 96Ds in .40 S&W!
    We won the comp with our POS sidearms and I remain baffled to this day how that happened. We were using boat anchors. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,408 Senior Member
    Zee said:

    We won the comp with our POS sidearms and I remain baffled to this day how that happened. We were using boat anchors. 
    This lowly Expert-level rifleman once won the 600 yard prone stage in a match roster that included a famous national champion level player.  Sometimes your good day aligns with their bad day. . .and the experience DOES mess with your head.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • LinefinderLinefinder Moderator Posts: 7,762 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    "Walking away seems to be a lost art form."
    N454casull
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    👍👍👍
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,982 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Senior Member Posts: 4,982 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,408 Senior Member
    edited January 24 #109
    Now boys, let's be careful here or we'll be back to the O.P's thread about defending yourself from a release-fire weapon.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • SpkSpk Senior Member Posts: 4,746 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    Now boys, let's be careful here or we'll be back to the O.P's thread about defending yourself from a release-fire weapon.

    I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas.


    Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain
    How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain

  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 3,262 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
    I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,577 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
    I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
    Two is one and one is none. Just say’n. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,738 Senior Member
    edited January 25 #114
    Wasn't there a bathroom incident at a mall?  I believe a Mayoral Commendation was awarded?
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 10,698 Senior Member
    edited January 25 #115
    PFD said:
    Wasn't there a bathroom incident at a mall?  I believe a Mayoral Commendation was awarded?
    In case anyone reading this is not up to speed on Gecko45.....https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    Damn..... been 20+ years
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 9,408 Senior Member
    The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.

    Mike
    A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
    Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
    you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
    I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
    "If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you REALLY need to come up with a Plan B"
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Senior Member Posts: 8,532 Senior Member
    Simply Precious! :D:D:D
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,196 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio said:
    PFD said:
    Wasn't there a bathroom incident at a mall?  I believe a Mayoral Commendation was awarded?
    In case anyone reading this is not up to speed on Gecko45.....https://lonelymachines.org/mall-ninjas/

    Damn..... been 20+ years
    Talk about a blast from the past
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    edited January 25 #119
    25th of January and still waiting for the local one-man FFL to email me to pick up my two new pistols. I'm not going to cheap out like this ever again in bum-frack Lawton/Fort Sill Oklahoma. 
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,577 Senior Member
    Call him. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    Zee said:
    Call him. 
    On the telephone? Not yet. I'll send him another email in about a week or so to see what's up. Unless I hear from him sooner, I'll just casually drop him a line to say I hope his family and he are OK. I won't mention picking up the guns just yet. If this guy holds me up for too long on this FFL transfer, I'll suggest that he deliver or ship the guns to another local FFL to complete the job. Should I give him up to a month max before I suggest to him about making other arrangements? Let me ask people here, what might YOU do if your guns were in such a pickle? Obviously, nobody here is going to wait forever on matters like this before ringing somebody's phone, if you will. 
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