The humanity, Hope he never needs real work done by experts.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
On re-reading the OP's first few post in this thread. . .
The FFL undergoing the unfortunate incident of a sick child initially got the business because he charged ten dollars less for the transfer than what had been his "regular" FFL.
#1. If I were the afflicted FFL, I would not be overly concerned about a transfer fee bargain shopper who sweats ten bucks "lawyering up"
#2. If I were the lawyer being consulted, I would say, "Dude. . .do you realize how much more than ten bucks I'm going to charge you once I start the clock?"
#3. If I were the judge that this got brought before, I would cite the OP for "Public Douchebaggery" and require him to reimburse any fees the FFL incurred in being summoned to court over a matter of such a dire nature on his part and of such frivolity on the OP's part.
In short, the world is a very big place and it does not revolve around you.
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
A lot of truth in those statements. I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
A lot of truth in those statements. I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.
Mike
"Walking away seems to be a lost art form." N454casull
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
A lot of truth in those statements. I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.
Mike
I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
A lot of truth in those statements. I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.
Mike
I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
Well with pistol/revolver shooting it helped if you could shoot well before you got there
Shooting on demand while the target is moving is different.
Shooting on demand when highly stressed ( and people around you are having a meltdown) is another thing, adding target movement or your movement complicates things even more.
Life doesn't sit still for you, hopefully, if the time comes for your need to respond, you are squared away in your head and in your ability.
These statements are not directed at any one person, and they apply to me as well.
A lot of truth in those statements. I like the way Rob Pinkus explains it.
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
Or you could join the Marine Corps...... You get paid for it.
Mike
I’ve seen the end result of USMC rifle training (impressed) and pistol training (underwhelmed) 😁.
Well with pistol/revolver shooting it helped if you could shoot well before you got there
So I’ve noticed!!! But to be fair, EVERY one I’ve worked with has been a thoroughly eager and enthusiastic learner that came to me with no ego to defend. Marines are 👍👍 in my book!
When I was in (69-74) the way we were taught to shoot the 1911 was one-handed (Classic Bullseye shooting...)Somewhere along the line, someone figured out that was not the most advantageous way to shoot a handgun...
Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
Shot far more as a civilian than I ever did in my short time in the US Army Cavalry.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
In an International Competition, I faced every Military service in the US and multiple Services World Wide………..the only ones we feared were the Marine Recon Unit with their custom 1911s as we faced them with our Beretta 96Ds in .40 S&W! We won the comp with our POS sidearms and I remain baffled to this day how that happened. We were using boat anchors.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
We won the comp with our POS sidearms and I remain baffled to this day how that happened. We were using boat anchors.
This lowly Expert-level rifleman once won the 600 yard prone stage in a match roster that included a famous national champion level player. Sometimes your good day aligns with their bad day. . .and the experience DOES mess with your head.
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
Now boys, let's be careful here or we'll be back to the O.P's thread about defending yourself from a release-fire weapon.
I am the Sergeant of a three-man Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience -- Mark Twain How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
Two is one and one is none. Just say’n.
"To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
The Corps says "Every Marine is a rifleman", and they mean it. By the time it gets to pistol range, there's always another rifle you can grab.
Mike
A pistols purpose is to fight your way to a rifle!
Unless you’re having dinner with your wife and 2 guys with shotguns come in to violently disturb your date, in which case that pistol might have to take care of the problem.
you didn't strategically stash 4 or 5 rifles in the restaurant before hand?
I also duct tape a plate to my back in case I have to take .308 fire while running away…. 😎
"If Plan A is to take multiple .338 shots to the back, you REALLY need to come up with a Plan B"
25th of January and still waiting for the local one-man FFL to email me to pick up my two new pistols. I'm not going to cheap out like this ever again in bum-frack Lawton/Fort Sill Oklahoma.
On the telephone? Not yet. I'll send him another email in about a week or so to see what's up. Unless I hear from him sooner, I'll just casually drop him a line to say I hope his family and he are OK. I won't mention picking up the guns just yet. If this guy holds me up for too long on this FFL transfer, I'll suggest that he deliver or ship the guns to another local FFL to complete the job. Should I give him up to a month max before I suggest to him about making other arrangements? Let me ask people here, what might YOU do if your guns were in such a pickle? Obviously, nobody here is going to wait forever on matters like this before ringing somebody's phone, if you will.
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Winston Churchill
"The Un-Tactical"
The FFL undergoing the unfortunate incident of a sick child initially got the business because he charged ten dollars less for the transfer than what had been his "regular" FFL.
#1. If I were the afflicted FFL, I would not be overly concerned about a transfer fee bargain shopper who sweats ten bucks "lawyering up"
#2. If I were the lawyer being consulted, I would say, "Dude. . .do you realize how much more than ten bucks I'm going to charge you once I start the clock?"
#3. If I were the judge that this got brought before, I would cite the OP for "Public Douchebaggery" and require him to reimburse any fees the FFL incurred in being summoned to court over a matter of such a dire nature on his part and of such frivolity on the OP's part.
In short, the world is a very big place and it does not revolve around you.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Shooting at the range is like learning to drive on a closed racetrack. It’s helpful and will allow you to learn fundamentals. BUT, you should not assume you’re 100% ready for driving in the real world. For that you need to train the way you’ll most likely be called upon to actually defend yourself.
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
Mike
N454casull
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
Winston Churchill
We won the comp with our POS sidearms and I remain baffled to this day how that happened. We were using boat anchors.
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
Mike
N454casull
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again! -- Mark Twain
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
Paul
Damn..... been 20+ years
"Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
"The Un-Tactical"