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I had archery in junior high school with recurve bows.

burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
I always thought if I hunted with a bow, it would be with a recurve bow. To me, that looks like the most elegant bow style there is. At school, we had recurve bows for PE. I like the traditional quiver over the back as well. I saw bow hunting features in OL magazines as a boy. I once asked my grandfather about what he thought of bow hunting and he told me to go on, kid, get out of here. He must have discouraged me from giving it any more thought. He wouldn't dare put a scope on his hunting rifles he was so old-fashioned. He thought scopes were cheating. I must confess that I have only hunted deer and squirrel with a scoped rifle to date going against my gramps' wishes in that regard.

But I digress. A recurve bow looks much more elegant than a compound bow. Certainly bow hunting deer is more challenging than gun hunting deer. A bow is not as long range as a rifle or even a slug gun. A bow is not as easy to shoot accurately as a long gun. Archery does, however, give deer hunters more seasonal opportunities.

Now that I'm all of tripe, I'll shoot a question or two here, no pun intended, so I might learn something to gravitate toward having some venison instead of the "tripe".

Are there any recurve bow hunters here? If so, please share with this board any such recurve-bow hunting experiences.
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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    I’ve taken many deer with a compound bow, but only one with a recurve. I still have one of my compound bows and two recurves. 
    If I get back into bow hunting, I too would like to primarily use the recurves. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    I just fished with them, started with a straight bow as a teen and got a recurve when I got older and thought I needed more than a 34 pound pull weight.
  • NNNN Posts: 25,236 Senior Member
    Got a rabbit once.
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    I can't seem to find any good traditional archery learning resources on line. How does one take recurve bow lessons for archery deer hunting? Local training courses? Any good suggested books? 
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,863 Senior Member
    Did a lot of archery as a kid.  Tried to take it up again and couldn't make it work for me.  Generally though, my experiences are:

    Even if you put some kind of sighting system on a recurve or long bow, it will continue to be a much more instinctive shooting experience.  A modern compound bow will drop up to 80% of its draw weight at full draw, so you can hold and aim more comfortably for longer.  Comparatively, a recurve will be pull, briefly sight, and let 'er rip.

    The cams on a compound will give you more speed and a flatter trajectory, no question.  Estimating distance and how to compensate for it are critical with either, but more so with the old stuff.

    Quiver on your back is cute, but impractical.  That's where you keep the backpack necessary for dismantling and hauling out pieces of dead deer.

    Find your local archery shop and talk to the pros.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    edited January 2022 #7
    A sight pin just doesn't look right on an old-fashioned bow as a recurve. I don't believe the American Indians used such sighting equipment and neither did Robin Hood. Traditional archery is sought for old-fashioned simplicity. I do think the recurve looks more elegant than other types. A compound bow looks ugly like a black bullpup rifle while a wooden handle recurve looks pretty like a classic 1950's bolt-action rifle to make an analogy in cosmetics and esthetics. Some quivers attach to the waist leaving the back free for a pack. A quiver attached to a recurve bow makes it look geeky like a modern compound. 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,359 Senior Member
    I bowhunted with a recurve and a compound for a long time until I blew out my shoulder...

    The whole quiver on your back, while a romantic notion, isn't  all that practical...you have other stuff to be toting around...a bow mounted quiver that holds a half dozen arrows gets the job done...Just remove it from the bow when you get to your stand...

    It took me all of 30 seconds to find that the internet is full of Traditional Archery stuff...

    Go to a shop that deals with archery equipment...

    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    Thanks. I just discovered a new archery shop in my home town online. The shop is so new it's website is still under construction with no pretty pictures on its plain white pages yet. I've just signed up to join an nation-wide archery specialty forum as well. I'm sure an archery specialty forum will have tons of helpful information. The shop in town provides archery lessons as well. I'll have to wait until this shop gets their website ironed out to look at them real close. 
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    Or stop by. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,413 Senior Member
    I JUST re-discovered my compound and after a long lay-up it's no worse for wear.  I got a new target and I will be taking the bow to a local Archery shop for a tuneup this spring so I can get a jump on deer season in the fall.  I also got a real, hand-made Osage Orange bow last year as part of an estate I bought.  I had no clue what I had until I started doing some research, this is NO toy.  I have to decide what I'll be doing with it but I'm thinking a full primitive setup with hand fletched cedar arrows is in order.  It'll be a whole new experience for sure but should be a lot of fun.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • JaphyJaphy Posts: 576 Senior Member
    I hunted whitetail in the Midwest with a Hoyt recurve for several years before compounds were available. 
    One important point is go for a longer length to avoid stacking which is an increase in draw weight over the length of the draw. I draw 31in so it’s significant particularly with a short hunting recurve. 
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,359 Senior Member
    I remember when they came out with "magnum" recurves... short with fat limbs....those were tough bows to master 
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,413 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:
    I remember when they came out with "magnum" recurves... short with fat limbs....those were tough bows to master 
    I remember those.  There was NO holding those at full draw.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,863 Senior Member
    A sight pin just doesn't look right on an old-fashioned bow as a recurve. I don't believe the American Indians used such sighting equipment and neither did Robin Hood. Traditional archery is sought for old-fashioned simplicity. I do think the recurve looks more elegant than other types. A compound bow looks ugly like a black bullpup rifle while a wooden handle recurve looks pretty like a classic 1950's bolt-action rifle to make an analogy in cosmetics and esthetics. Some quivers attach to the waist leaving the back free for a pack. A quiver attached to a recurve bow makes it look geeky like a modern compound. 
    Is he here to seek answers to his questions, or to show us he knows everything?  I'm confused.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Posts: 18,359 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    A sight pin just doesn't look right on an old-fashioned bow as a recurve. I don't believe the American Indians used such sighting equipment and neither did Robin Hood. Traditional archery is sought for old-fashioned simplicity. I do think the recurve looks more elegant than other types. A compound bow looks ugly like a black bullpup rifle while a wooden handle recurve looks pretty like a classic 1950's bolt-action rifle to make an analogy in cosmetics and esthetics. Some quivers attach to the waist leaving the back free for a pack. A quiver attached to a recurve bow makes it look geeky like a modern compound. 
    Is he here to seek answers to his questions, or to show us he knows everything?  I'm confused.
    He's  answering his own questions, just like always, in his quest to educate us all about everything he's  learned on YouTube...
    Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    edited January 2022 #17
    Bigslug said:
    A sight pin just doesn't look right on an old-fashioned bow as a recurve. I don't believe the American Indians used such sighting equipment and neither did Robin Hood. Traditional archery is sought for old-fashioned simplicity. I do think the recurve looks more elegant than other types. A compound bow looks ugly like a black bullpup rifle while a wooden handle recurve looks pretty like a classic 1950's bolt-action rifle to make an analogy in cosmetics and esthetics. Some quivers attach to the waist leaving the back free for a pack. A quiver attached to a recurve bow makes it look geeky like a modern compound. 
    Is he here to seek answers to his questions, or to show us he knows everything?  I'm confused.
    I'm just forming an opinion about the looks of things I've seen. I know what my eyes like to look at and what they don't like to look at regardless of past experience. To me, looks of weapons (whether they burn powder or not) are important as far as considering to spend my own money on them goes. I do know for a fact a compound bow is much more complicated and I find this equipment cosmetically unattractive so I would never spend my money on one. My questions in this thread are about whether there are any recurve bow archers here anyway. Modern bow hunting seems to be dominated by compound bows. Just curiosity. I did in fact have experience in junior high school PE firing recurve bows way back in 1977. 45 years ago. No, they did not have hide nor hair of a sight pin on them. To tell you the truth, I can't even remember how I was even taught to aim the thing it was so long ago. Think about how recurve bows commonly were in the 1970's. That is my vision of archery. I would need formal archery training to get back into it again. I want to know how to do bows correctly. 
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    I'm just forming an opinion about the looks of things I've seen. I know what my eyes like to look at and what they don't like to look at regardless of past experience. To me, looks of weapons (whether they burn powder or not) are important as far as considering to spend my own money on them goes. I do know for a fact a compound bow is much more complicated and I find this equipment cosmetically unattractive so I would never spend my money on one. My questions in this thread are about whether there are any recurve bow archers here anyway. Modern bow hunting seems to be dominated by compound bows. Just curiosity. I did in fact have experience in junior high school PE firing recurve bows way back in 1977. 45 years ago. No, they did not have hide nor hair of a sight pin on them. To tell you the truth, I can't even remember how I was even taught to aim the thing it was so long ago. Think about how recurve bows commonly were in the 1970's. That is my vision of archery. I would need formal archery training to get back into it again. I want to know how to do bows correctly. 
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:

    Find your local archery shop and talk to the pros.
    THIS!

    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    Jayhawker said:

    Go to a shop that deals with archery equipment...


    THIS!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member

    Zee said:
    Or stop by. 

    THIS!
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    Sure a peek inside the local shop, someday soon. I'm too busy right now. I'm now on an undisclosed bowhunting-specific forum as a noob to shoot the bull with folks there too!  :#
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    I have hunted deer with a bow, just outside of Newcastle.
    Find a archery shop, and ask where you can find a mentor.
    Better yet, find someone that can actually teach you.
    I have handmade longbow, but don't hunt with it.
    I grew up shooting a recurve, but didn't hunt with it.
    A good friend of mine hunts prairie dogs, and fishes with his recurves.
    He also has killed elk with them.
    He moved to a compound several years ago for elk.
    My first archery deer was a young buck, with a old compound, shooting instinctive (no sights), using fingers (not a release) at right around 20 yards-quick kill!
    I have only hunted elk one year, and it was on public land in Wyoming, and I was very blessed.
    It was that same old Pearson Flame I shot my first deer with.

    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    edited January 2022 #24
    Sure a peek inside the local shop, someday soon. I'm too busy right now. I'm now on an undisclosed bowhunting-specific forum as a noob to shoot the bull with folks there too!  :#

    If I was you (And I am surely not!), I would spend less time posting, and go to an archery shop and then get with someone and actually learn to shoot a bow properly.  There might be some indoor ranges nearby, if not, the weather there isn't that bad for long, so an outdoor range would work too.
    It will be easier to learn on a compound with sights, using a release.
    Nothing wrong staying with a recurve though.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    I have hunted deer with a bow, just outside of Newcastle.
    Find a archery shop, and ask where you can find a mentor.
    Better yet, find someone that can actually teach you.
    I have handmade longbow, but don't hunt with it.
    I grew up shooting a recurve, but didn't hunt with it.
    A good friend of mine hunts prairie dogs, and fishes with his recurves.
    He also has killed elk with them.
    He moved to a compound several years ago for elk.
    My first archery deer was a young buck, with a old compound, shooting instinctive (no sights), using fingers (not a release) at right around 20 yards-quick kill!
    I have only hunted elk one year, and it was on public land in Wyoming, and I was very blessed.
    It was that same old Pearson Flame I shot my first deer with.

    Very nice bull, Mr. Bishop. Some people will find elk hunting with a rifle even daunting. It's the high altitude, long hiking and weather that gets to many folks, not the weapon used so much. I just saw a video of a guy who killed an Alaskan brown bear with a bow talk about Rambo-style bravery! 
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    I have hunted deer with a bow, just outside of Newcastle.
    Find a archery shop, and ask where you can find a mentor.
    Better yet, find someone that can actually teach you.
    I have handmade longbow, but don't hunt with it.
    I grew up shooting a recurve, but didn't hunt with it.
    A good friend of mine hunts prairie dogs, and fishes with his recurves.
    He also has killed elk with them.
    He moved to a compound several years ago for elk.
    My first archery deer was a young buck, with a old compound, shooting instinctive (no sights), using fingers (not a release) at right around 20 yards-quick kill!
    I have only hunted elk one year, and it was on public land in Wyoming, and I was very blessed.
    It was that same old Pearson Flame I shot my first deer with.

    Very nice bull, Mr. Bishop. Some people will find elk hunting with a rifle even daunting. It's the high altitude, long hiking and weather that gets to many folks, not the weapon used so much. I just saw a video of a guy who killed an Alaskan brown bear with a bow talk about Rambo-style bravery! 

    Thank you.
    Don't make more of hunting, than what it is...Decide what you want to do, and then work on getting the fundamentals down for that system-Have Fun!
    This is a doing sport!
    Go learn, practice, make mistakes and learn from them...Have fun!

    Any big game animal can be dangerous at some level given the right/wrong circumstances.
    Folks who hunt dangerous big game, have professional guides with them, armed with very capable weapons.
    Go to an archery shop that has a range or dead stop to where you can actually try shooting different bows.  You will know from trying them, which one you really like.
    But don't just waste their time. 
    Do this once you know you want to really get into archery hunting.
    I suggest you actually trust the flesh and blood people helping you, instead of questioning and or arguing about the many things you read on the web.  There are lots of ways to skin the cat.
    Find a person who actually hunts with a bow.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,409 Senior Member
    edited January 2022 #27
    My first job was working at an Archery Shop at age 12. 
    I used to hang out there after school every day and the owner said if I kept hanging out he’d put me to work. I said sure and he asked my dad if it was ok. So, I started fletching arrows and working on bows for $1.25 an hour. 
    Worked there for 3 years and then went to another archery/gun shop for a couple years before moving on. 
    When I first moved to Texas way back when, it was to manage a ranch for archery only hunting. Did that about 5 years. Then the long range bug kicked in and I moved on to selling shoes in one way, shape, or form. I’d wanted to sell shoes since elementary school. It was what I originally wanted to do when I grew up. 

    So, I’ve been bow hunting since I was 12, I guess 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JaphyJaphy Posts: 576 Senior Member

    This archery thread perked my curiosity about the legality of CO2 / air powered arrow guns, cant really call them bows no limbs or a string?  Check Benjamin,Umarex,  advertising 450+ fps speeds and 130 ft lbs which is at or above any available compound bows or even cross bows. Unarex has a double barrel version 2 shots without reloading.

    are these things legal hunting weapons? firearms or archery?





  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,863 Senior Member
    Japhy said:

    are these things legal hunting weapons? firearms or archery?

    It's undoubtedly gonna depend on where you are.  In California, for example, a crossbow hunter has to hunt during the rifle season unless they can get their doctor to sign off on a "handicapped archer exemption", or words to that effect.  Probably mostly a firearms season hunting device for folk that can't own firearms.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • burroughs85burroughs85 Posts: 168 Member
    One thing that bothers me is that Oklahoma, a so-called Constitutional Carry state, doesn't seem to allow the carry of handguns for personal security during archery-only hunting seasons. I hadn't thought about this until today and checked Ok game regs. These regs are a bit murky. This prohibition could be a bow hunting deal-breaker for me. I always want some sort of gun with me while out of doors whether hunting, fishing, boating, ATVing, camping or hiking. I just created another thread on carrying sidearms during archery seasons if the mods will approve of it. I prefer a handgun as a sidearm while long gun hunting as well. 
  • Ernie BishopErnie Bishop Posts: 8,609 Senior Member
    It is your choice...
    I would call game and fish and confirm for sure one way or another.
    Ernie

    "The Un-Tactical"
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