And...it's worth noting...that Teach was given many opportunities to rein in his behavior...both privately and publicly before he was finally banned...in short...he just couldn't help himself...Things like his " Good Ole Boy queer jokes" just don't fly in public forums...or anywhere else for that matter...
Sharps Model 1874 - "The rifle that made the west safe for Winchester"
I am the one that banned Teach. We'll just get that out of the way upfront. My reason for doing so were many, but his constant berating of new members was foremost of those. He'd been warned about this both publically and privately numerious times. Nothing seemed to make a difference.
One Sunday morning a new member asked a nimrod, but heartfelt, question. Teach's response was something along the lines of "Come back when you're over mental masturbation".
That was the final line.
Mike
"Walking away seems to be a lost art form." N454casull
I’m a semi newcomer here. I don’t plan on going anywhere. This has been a great source of accurate info. But the instant it goes Meta virtual with 3D goggles and amines I’m outta here
Where dang lucky to have you Japh. I feel like dancing!
Yeah okay, I used old footage of Mike. 🤣
Get that guy a pole!
-Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
My biggest thing is that members keep being erased. When Alpha was erased, it is said it was a clerical error, but even then, anyone that questioned it was threatened with being banned. Since Jerry is dead, that tells me that the mods are accountable to nobody and in that absence, even refuse to be accountable to the members here.
When long term members are erased, every thread they started also gets erased. That means every post that everyone else posted in that thread gets erased. I have had countless posts that I put lots of time and effort to document in, in an effort to share with this online community that were deleted because of that.
After the Alpha screwup, they said it wouldn't happen again, but it did. Why should anyone take the time and effort to post anything that is worth a crap if a mod decides to delete tens of thousands of posts indiscriminately because a longtime member wants to take their ball and go home?
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Let me elaborate.. BP Sniper... he had a legitimate reason to get out of here. CPJ... he is one of my best friends and he did it for some potential issues (don't ever talk about your personal life online) and I get it. He Who Asked Me to Never Refer to Him Again? I am not sure the reason, but it deleted a bunch of my posts. I resent that. Knitepoet? I can only speculate that it was a FU to the rest of us and a mod obliged... deleting all our posts under every thread that he started since 2011.
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it.
Unless there is a legal reason to delete the entire history of a poster, the posts made by everyone else should be understood to be property of the forum. You want to leave, Buh-bye, but the other members efforts asking or answering or generally screwing around should stand. Change the name to "Took ball and left" and let the thread stand.
Except for that BP sniper guy, he was weird.
It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
I am the one that banned Teach. We'll just get that out of the way upfront. My reason for doing so were many, but his constant berating of new members was foremost of those. He'd been warned about this both publically and privately numerious times. Nothing seemed to make a difference.
One Sunday morning a new member asked a nimrod, but heartfelt, question. Teach's response was something along the lines of "Come back when you're over mental masturbation".
That was the final line.
Mike
I have never said jack about this, but you did the right thing. It wasnt just that he treated people whom he thought knew less than him poorly, he chased them into other threads to do it there also.
It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
Unless there is a legal reason to delete the entire history of a poster, the posts made by everyone else should be understood to be property of the forum. You want to leave, Buh-bye, but the other members efforts asking or answering or generally screwing around should stand. Change the name to "Took ball and left" and let the thread stand.
Except for that BP sniper guy, he was weird.
There is a technical reason. When a member asked for his content to be deleted it takes every thread he started out with all the content anyone posted in the thread because it’s all hanging off the OP. Threads started by others stay and only the self-banned member’s posts are deleted.
There is and there has never been any other way of doing it. Not the Mods faults.
Since Jerry is dead, that tells me that the mods are accountable to nobody and in that absence, even refuse to be accountable to the members here.
When long term members are erased, every thread they started also gets erased. That means every post that everyone else posted in that thread gets erased. I have had countless posts that I put lots of time and effort to document in, in an effort to share with this online community that were deleted because of that.
After the Alpha screwup, they said it wouldn't happen again, but it did. Why should anyone take the time and effort to post anything that is worth a crap if a mod decides to delete tens of thousands of posts indiscriminately because a longtime member wants to take their ball and go home?
So let me get this straight. You have a problem with the Mods not being “accountable” to the members they are tasked with exerting control over and banning when needed for the benefit of the forum?
Interesting position. Unworkable but interesting. When I became a Moderator DJ told me you can be a Moderator or one of the guys, not both. You might have noticed that as much as everyone asked he was never here posting and joking around with everyone. He came in like Zeus, **** on someone’s head and left.
I still tried and failed miserably and I would not touch that job with a 10 foot pole.
Unless there is a legal reason to delete the entire history of a poster, the posts made by everyone else should be understood to be property of the forum. You want to leave, Buh-bye, but the other members efforts asking or answering or generally screwing around should stand. Change the name to "Took ball and left" and let the thread stand.
Except for that BP sniper guy, he was weird.
There is a technical reason. When a member asked for his content to be deleted it takes every thread he started out with all the content anyone posted in the thread because it’s all hanging off the OP. Threads started by others stay and only the self-banned member’s posts are deleted.
There is and there has never been any other way of doing it. Not the Mods faults.
I understand that. Still doesnt mean that the content should be removed unless there is a safety concern or legitimate legal reason like ex wife has an order to remove pics of kids hunting. Just say Buh-bye, your stuff stays. "I dont wanna be a member and you have to take away everything with my name on it" ! Answer = No.
Mods can change the name to BANNED, or TOOK BALL WENT HOME if requested, but the content stays. Because I get butt hurt and leave, that doesnt mean I get to choose to wipe out a 3 page discussion on patched round balls or heavy bullets in a 5.56 because I decided it violates my safe space after 20 some years posting on this platform. That pretty much kills the reason to have a platform.
It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
Unless there is a legal reason to delete the entire history of a poster, the posts made by everyone else should be understood to be property of the forum. You want to leave, Buh-bye, but the other members efforts asking or answering or generally screwing around should stand. Change the name to "Took ball and left" and let the thread stand.
Except for that BP sniper guy, he was weird.
There is a technical reason. When a member asked for his content to be deleted it takes every thread he started out with all the content anyone posted in the thread because it’s all hanging off the OP. Threads started by others stay and only the self-banned member’s posts are deleted.
There is and there has never been any other way of doing it. Not the Mods faults.
I understand that. Still doesnt mean that the content should be removed unless there is a safety concern or legitimate legal reason like ex wife has an order to remove pics of kids hunting. Just say Buh-bye, your stuff stays. "I dont wanna be a member and you have to take away everything with my name on it" ! Answer = No.
Mods can change the name to BANNED, or TOOK BALL WENT HOME if requested, but the content stays. Because I get butt hurt and leave, that doesnt mean I get to choose to wipe out a 3 page discussion on patched round balls or heavy bullets in a 5.56 because I decided it violates my safe space after 20 some years posting on this platform. That pretty much kills the reason to have a platform.
And who gets to be the judge of that decision? The Mods that everyone **** all over when they take any actions or make decisions around here? And if they make the wrong decision who’s shouldering the potential liability? The other members? The management of G&A? Nope….
Hey ultimately I don’t really care anymore and I’m out of that business but having been on that side of the fence I can tell you there is no way to win this game.
And yet everyone thinks they know the right way to do it and questions the folks that are doing all the work for free and still put up with every Monday morning Quaterback’s BS all day long.
As a mod...if a member asks to be banned, I will accomodate. If he/she asks for their content to be deleted, though only upon their request, (except for obvious spammers and trolls), I will do that too. I don't know why longterm members do this, since the loss to the forum as a whole can be great. However, I'm not living their life, and have no desire to delve into their reasoning. If your answer/s to their threads get whacked by "suicide bomber"....that's life. Start a new thread.
Mike
"Walking away seems to be a lost art form." N454casull
Accipter.....you apparently disagree with what I said. I take that to mean that if you request, for whatever reason you decide,, that I ban you and delete your content that I shouldn't do it. I'll keep that in mind. Just in case.
Mike
"Walking away seems to be a lost art form." N454casull
Didn't really mean for the thread to go that way. I was just kinda wondering what happened to a few guys recently. Guess I know now and should have known thread drift would happen..
Don't complain. There are *FAR* worse forums than this one, regardless of how you think its run or not run. I was banned for life from one such, it purported to be a staunch 2A defender, etc, etc, for a certain region - but instead it was Bible central. They did NOT appreciate my informing them that they needed "All hands on deck" and needed to reach out to EVERYBODY - starting with the "Pink Pistols", not just White Christian males. Only forum I've ever been banned from. "Stay the course" was their motto - even though that's what the Titanic did, etc, etc. A COMPLETE echo chamber. "Divided you'll fall" - they didn't want to hear that. *shrug* Whatever, its their forum and their funeral.
-Zorba, "The Veiled Male"
"If you get it and didn't work for it, someone else worked for it and didn't get it..."
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One Sunday morning a new member asked a nimrod, but heartfelt, question. Teach's response was something along the lines of "Come back when you're over mental masturbation".
That was the final line.
Mike
N454casull
Get that guy a pole!
There is and there has never been any other way of doing it. Not the Mods faults.
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
I still tried and failed miserably and I would not touch that job with a 10 foot pole.
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
My favorite teach thing to do was announce your dislike for someone/ thing then forcefully suggest they be killed in some violent manner. Repeatedly
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
Mike
N454casull
Mike
N454casull
ECHO...ECHO....echo...
Ah......One savors the hypocrisy!
Karma.........It’s a bitch.
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎
It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎