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Ordered my new shop building today

JayJay Senior MemberPosts: 4,347 Senior Member
Decided to just suck it up and order it. Prices are skyrocketing. Since I can’t go back in time and order one cheaper, might as well get it done before they get any worse. In 18 days since I got my first quote until today, the price had already gone up just about $1,500.

It’s not going to be a huge shop. But I think it’ll work. The building itself is 30x36x10’ tall pitching up to a 15’ peak, insulated, 8x16 foot roll up door, 3x7 walk through door and a 20x16 lean-to extending out over the roll up door. The computer simulation pics below show the incorrect slope on the lean-to. It dropped to 7 1/2 feet at the end, which defeats the purpose of having an 8’ tall roll up door. So that was changed to give 8 1/2’ of clearance. 

Now I’ve gotta look forward to paying for the concrete work and construction of the building. Which will probably cost nearly as much as the building itself.. 😣 Then electricity… it’ll have its own dedicated 200 amp service. This is going to get pricey.  But it will improve my property value, so not a huge loss in the long run. And I’ll finally have a nice place to work and not be rolling around in dirt working on vehicles. At the same time, I’m working on trying to have my new house by the end of the year. 🤞🏻 Going to be a busy year. 


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  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,446 Senior Member
    Nice!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,723 Senior Member
    I bought a garage similar to that many years ago.
    Good thing it came with a house on the property so my wife had a place to stay. 😄
    You're gonna love.it.
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • bhl2506bhl2506 Senior Member Posts: 2,025 Senior Member
    Very nice! I'm envious as all get out!
    Refusing to conform to the left wing mantra of political correctness by insisting on telling the truth does not make you a loud mouth.
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,446 Senior Member
    Hey!  New place to drink beer when I visit next month!!
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    Unfortunately, since I custom designed and ordered the building, it won’t be here until around end of May, beginning of June. But there’s plenty of room to have a beverage out here..  🍻
  • ZeeZee Senior Member Posts: 27,446 Senior Member
    Tailgate will do. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    I built a new 16x24 shade with roll down bamboo side shades and bought a new, big portable AC unit last year. A step up from tailgating under the carport. 🤣 Just more options. 
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    edited March 31 #9
    I’ve been watching YouTube videos about running electricity and such.  I’ve done a bit of that kinda stuff before. But brushing up on what to be prepared for to run my own electric in the shop. Bigger job than I’ve done before. 

    Plan is to have an electrician do the meter box and panel. Then I’ll run everything from there. 4-6 240 volt welder outlets, 8-10 two gang outlet boxes, LED shop lights, 240 volt air compressor and a motion sensing light on the front. 30A RV outlet run outside the shop for my 5th wheel.  Oh, and refrigerated air and heat in the shop, with the help of an HVAC buddy… 😬 Plan to do it in steps. A few outlets first to get started. Then lights. Then air compressor. Then air conditioning, so I can work in there all day. Then all the rest…🤷🏻‍♂️ Those with elec. and/or shop building experience, please feel free to advise. That’s just my thoughts. 
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 2,965 Senior Member
    I’m rather envious!!! Sounds like a great place to spend a LOT of time 👍👍👍
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,179 Senior Member
    Thinking here, since you live in the land of wind and sun, maybe ask the electrician about off the grid power, see what that entails.
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • Diver43Diver43 Senior Member Posts: 12,131 Senior Member
    I can't give advice, but it sounds like you have a good plan.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    Thanks guys.

    As far as off grid power, maybe in the future as an add-on. Right now it's not going to fit in the budget and I already have a power pole with a transformer and drop ready to go directly to the new building.  So it's really just a matter of having an electrician put in the meter box and panel, then have the elec company come hook up the drop.  There is an old house on the site right now that I'm working on getting demolished and removed.  I had the elec drop from it temporarily removed and the elec company said just give them a call when I'm ready to have it run to the new building.  So that's a quick and easy way to get power to the building as soon as it's built.  I'm already looking at probably $45-50K for the building and concrete work. I've gotta watch my budget pretty close.  

    I was thinking about putting a 20A, 2 gang outlet box on the side of the service panel to start with.  That way I can have outlets to plug in lights and tools, which will help me work on the rest of it at different times.  I also have a portable AC that I can use to help cool it while I'm working, so the mini split can wait for a little bit.  Lights and an air compressor will come after that, so I can work at night without having to plug in lights and use compressed air for tools and such.  Then I can run the rest of the outlets around the shop.  Once elec is done, I'll work on building benches and running air lines around the shop and go from there.  The idea is to get the main cost of the building out of the way and get it functional, then nickel and dime the rest as I can afford it.
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,179 Senior Member
    edited April 1 #14
    My point was maybe it is easier for your electrician to set up your system for wind/solar backup during the construction phase vs. the nickle and dime phase, there may be some tax credits/incentives for it also, does not cost anything to ask the electrical contractor, sayin'. The way costs are going, you would also have some comparisons for a later date
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    That's true.  I'll ask about it.  I've considered solar as a backup option.  I don't have an electrician lined up yet.  I'll see what it looks like when that time comes and what he has to say about it.
  • FreezerFreezer Senior Member Posts: 2,355 Senior Member
    Have you considered a car hoist? I hate laying on the ground and even for oil changes, brake repair and tire rotation the hoist would make the job seem almost not like work.
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    I would have liked to do that. That was a consideration when I started planning the project, but I gave up on it for several reasons. First, obviously added cost. Cost of the lift as well as added expense on the slab.  Also, I would have had to go with 12’ or taller walls. Added expense on the building and more space to heat and cool. Lastly and most importantly, since I’m only going with a 30x36 building, a lift would take up too much room. There are portable car lifts that can be wheeled out of the way when not in use. I might look into that later. For now, a couple of floor jacks and jack stands and working on concrete, inside, with heat and AC will be much better than working on dirt outside like I’ve been doing for 20-something years. 🤪
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Senior Member Posts: 14,179 Senior Member
    Jay said:
    That's true.  I'll ask about it.  I've considered solar as a backup option.  I don't have an electrician lined up yet.  I'll see what it looks like when that time comes and what he has to say about it.
    Of course, my selfish reasoning is to see what that entails for my own upgrades ;), carry on Huckleberry, hope you have contractors that stick to their bids
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    Some progress.. What I hadn’t really mentioned before is, the spot where the new shop is going was being taken by a very old adobe building. That building is gone now. I got the approval drawings for the new building, signed off on them and sent them back just over a week ago. Which means my building can go into fabrication now and the building plans can be completed. As soon as I get those, I can have the slab poured. Then wait for the building to be delivered and put up. Probably still a month or more, I’m guessing. 

  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 7,936 Senior Member
    Here is something I never thought of. When you demolish an adobe structure, once you pull the roof and junk out, are you pretty much left with a pile of dirt?
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    edited May 4 #21
    Here is something I never thought of. When you demolish an adobe structure, once you pull the roof and junk out, are you pretty much left with a pile of dirt?
    That's pretty much the case.  Since they are basically made of mud bricks, you just end up with dirt other than the roofing material, windows, concrete foundation and the stucco coating on the outside.  Being as how I can burn stuff at my place, I was able to pile all the wood in the dry tank (pond) behind the house to be burned.  So the only stuff I had to haul off was the roof, glass, metal, stucco, concrete foundation, etc.  Most of the adobe was squashed and broken down and spread out.  Saved me some money on disposal and hauling.  But, this was about a 2000 square foot structure.  So there was a lot of junk to deal with.
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,335 Senior Member
    I too put up a building 2 years ago .
    Still doing inside ...... alone .
    My problem was moving things in before the inside was done .
    I hope to get power this year ..... some time .

  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 2,965 Senior Member
    I’m a little jealous for sure… 😁
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    edited May 6 #24
    Old Ron said:
    I too put up a building 2 years ago .
    Still doing inside ...... alone .
    My problem was moving things in before the inside was done .
    I hope to get power this year ..... some time .

    I've followed your thread on that.  Very nice shops, for sure.  Far beyond my ability at the moment.  I'll just be happy to have a concrete floor to work on and be able to get out of the weather...  For over 20 years I've been doing all my own vehicle maintenance and repairs on the dirt, outside.  I've had enough of that...

    I should have power to my building right after it's put up.  Since the old house already had a drop to it, there's already a pole and transformer there.  As long as my building is within 75 feet of the pole, they'll drop the power straight to the weather head on the building.  Upgrading from the previous 100 amp service to 200 amp at the shop.  I think I'll have more than enough power in there.
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    Here's some more things I'll have going on coming up.  And a good example of how things can escalate quickly when I get started on ideas...  :D
    Last year I bought a 40 foot shipping container.  That is intended to become my new man cave at some point.  I'm planning to section off about 10 feet of it in the back where the big doors are to keep my side-by-side parked in there.  Then I'll frame in and insulate the forward 30 feet and install a walk through door just in front of the shed.  That'll give me approximately 240 sq ft of man cave space that will also be air conditioned and heated.  And more work benches to build.  But right now, that is being used to store all my stuff while I'm getting the house going.
    Then, since I spent a little money on a nice John Deere zero turn mower last year, I needed somewhere to keep it out of the weather.  So I ordered a 10x16 Tuff Shed.. Most of my tools and stuff are in there right now, which will be moved to the new shop when it's done.  But, between these two buildings, I won't have to store ATVs and lawn equipment in the main shop.  Which will save some room.

  • Jeff in TXJeff in TX Senior Member Posts: 2,410 Senior Member
    Very nice!

    Distance is not an issue, but the wind can make it interesting!

    John 3: 1-21
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 2,965 Senior Member
    Hummmmm, you have a spare bedroom?  I’m a great cook and I come with a lot of ammo 😁
    I’m baaaaaaaaack… 😬
  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,723 Senior Member
    I always wanted to bury a shipping container in my back yard.  It would make a good root cellar/reloading room.
    Before it rusted. 😄
    Nice setup Jay!
    With all those buildings, you do know that you are well into "compound" territory. 😲
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    Hummmmm, you have a spare bedroom?  I’m a great cook and I come with a lot of ammo 😁
    Actually, pretty soon I won’t even have a bedroom. 🤣 Just a bed in my little 5th wheel for a while. But at least my temporary housing will be portable. 🤓
  • JayJay Senior Member Posts: 4,347 Senior Member
    edited May 6 #30
    PFD said:
    I always wanted to bury a shipping container in my back yard.  It would make a good root cellar/reloading room.
    Before it rusted. 😄
    Nice setup Jay!
    With all those buildings, you do know that you are well into "compound" territory. 😲
    Oh, I have 3 other small buildings of various sizes here that I haven’t posted pics of… 😮 One will eventually be getting a new home at my nephews house. One is my current, tiny man cave that will become my knife room after the new man cave is done. The other is just for storing junk, but it has washer and dryer spots, so it’ll be my laundromat while I’m living in the 5th wheel. 

    I keep saying I’m gonna put all my little buildings together and make them look like my own little Wild West town… 🤣 I better quit getting ideas. They’re expensive.. 
  • Old RonOld Ron Senior Member Posts: 4,335 Senior Member
    Same here Jay .
    Those brainfarts can get a tad expensive !
    Like you I was sick of working outside & wanted to just be inside with a floor .
    Problem is they fill up fast !
    Do you make knives or just collect ?
    When some things get way to expensive to collect ...... we find new collections !
    :)
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