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  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    The pin should be here in a few days.

    I cleaned up the bore while it's apart.
    Looks good to me strong rifling throughout  ?

    Wondering how common the sight set up may be ?
    They look original to me.




  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,639 Senior Member
    Looks like a Lyman tang sight and beech front sight!! I have a few with set ups like that. It's going to be a fun shooter!! Bore looks pretty good!
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,702 Senior Member
    Possibly a Marble's rear sight.  Got one on my 99.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    I don't know if original but certainly period correct.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    Big Al1 said:
    Looks like a Lyman tang sight and beech front sight!! I have a few with set ups like that. It's going to be a fun shooter!! Bore looks pretty good!
    The 38-55 is set up like this too and it's what made me realize lever guns can be precise.

    I never thought that before and maybe why I stayed away from them.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    Big Al1 said:
    Looks like a Lyman tang sight and beech front sight!! I have a few with set ups like that. It's going to be a fun shooter!! Bore looks pretty good!
    The 38-55 is set up like this too and it's what made me realize lever guns can be precise.

    I never thought that before and maybe why I stayed away from them.
    Oh they can be VERY accurate, but most of them are not good for shooting strings of more than 2-3 rounds.  Too many things touching the barrel.  I have a few lever guns that will basically touch two shots from a cold bore at 50 yards, which is about all I really want out of any lever gun I own.  Then 3 and after they start wandering.  I'm good with that...

    By the way I've been licking the screen on my MAC every time I run into this one.  1895 in 25-20 in actually very good shape with a nice shinny bore!  Unfortunately someone decided that some polishing of small parts and a D&T job on the receiver for a scope was in order and they want $1,600+ for the gun which is WAY too high for a non-original.  But hey, someone will pay it...

    https://www.gunbroker.com/item/943278426

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,639 Senior Member
    That's a lot of holes!! Wonder if it was drilled for the Hepburn sight??!!

    That white spacer on the swivel stud really puts it over the top!

  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    Big Al1 said:
    That's a lot of holes!! Wonder if it was drilled for the Hepburn sight??!!

    That white spacer on the swivel stud really puts it over the top!

    Yep, and someone will buy it…  I’d love to have Turnbul restore one of those to factory original for me.  That’s a good candidate but you’re starting too high on the $$$ for a project gun.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    That price seems crazy to me. I don't know lever guns though.

    This one was 600.
    I liked the condition sights and chambering so it came home.

    Besides somebody didn't get all my 32-20
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    That price seems crazy to me. I don't know lever guns though.

    This one was 600.
    I liked the condition sights and chambering so it came home.

    Besides somebody didn't get all my 32-20
    I need to make that up to you  :D

    That's about what I paid for mine but I had to replace one of the action screws which was all chewed up.  Actually I though mine was in much worse shape than it was.  After taking it completely apart down to just a pile of parts, scrubbing, steel wooling everything and lubricating/reassembly it is pretty damned good shape for an over 100 year old gun!  You too got away cheap with just having to replace a firing pin!

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,805 Senior Member
    The pin should be here in a few days.




    It almost looks like. . . if the rust wasn't there. . .you could push the steel bead forward and have an ivory bead?
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    PFD said:
    The pin should be here in a few days.




    It almost looks like. . . if the rust wasn't there. . .you could push the steel bead forward and have an ivory bead?
    That's exactly how it works...

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • PFDPFD Senior Member Posts: 1,805 Senior Member
    I thought so.  It just doesn't look like its been done in a while.
    👍
    That's all I got.

    Paul
  • Gene LGene L Senior Member Posts: 12,702 Senior Member
    Big Al1 said:
    That's a lot of holes!! Wonder if it was drilled for the Hepburn sight??!!

    That white spacer on the swivel stud really puts it over the top!

    I know Marlin does the bullseye in modern times  but don' t know if they did it back then.  I've replaced it on mine a couple of years ago.  I suspect someone drilled through the bullseye to mount the swivel stud.  It's done all the time. Can't fix stupid.
    Concealed carry is for protection, open carry is for attention.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    edited September 21 #46
    PFD said:
    I thought so.  It just doesn't look like its been done in a while.
    👍
    Yep, but a little Hoppes and a brass brush and it should be looking/working like new.  That's probably a real Ivory bead on that front sight.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    The pictures of that and the bore make it look worse than they are.

    The sight moves easily
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    Firing pin arrived 
    Gave it a quick trial and it 
    Eats em up and spits em out perfectly.




  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,709 Senior Member
  • Big Al1Big Al1 Senior Member Posts: 8,639 Senior Member
    Cool!! Where'd you get the pin from?? It came fast!
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    Long Hunters was the name of the company AL.

    Yes it was fast.
    It took  few shots before the rifle settled down or I did but the two sets of 3 were after it did.

    3 with the ivory higher ones.
    3 with the other the lower set.

    I'll try and wring it out soon.

  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    Well the sight is a Lyman #1 it has the may 6 84 patent so I guess the second variation.
    It was replaced by the 1A in 1905 so definitely the right time as the gun.

    Trying to figure out how to change elevation is kicking my behind.

    Any knowledge tips?
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,709 Senior Member
    Poking around a bit and I think your front is a Lyman #5 
    The knurled portion on the rear should turn the post up or down I believe.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    That's what I was thinking too but it's not giving up the ghost and it's been kroiled a few times.

    Don't really want to horse a 100 year old sight if I'm missing something 
  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,709 Senior Member
    That's what I was thinking too but it's not giving up the ghost and it's been kroiled a few times.

    Don't really want to horse a 100 year old sight if I'm missing something 
    How about a little heat?
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 4,121 Senior Member
    That's what I was thinking too but it's not giving up the ghost and it's been kroiled a few times.

    Don't really want to horse a 100 year old sight if I'm missing something 
    Agreed but they are pretty sturdy.  Unscrew it off the base and dunk it in a jar of Hoppes or kerosene for a week or so then clamp it and wrap the knurled section with a piece of thick leather and try to gently coax it with a pail of pliers.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    I can definitely do that Enzo.
    I read this one has a hair pin spring with a detent that would hold it up and I'm not sure what and where that is on it.
    I'm hoping to find out a little on that to see if it could be what's causing it. 
  • MbellumMbellum Posts: 29 New Member
    Great score! You inhale with vigor!
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    edited September 27 #59
    I did finally get the sight to budge. I soaked and used heat.....I proved more stubborn.

    The load I started with were typical 100 grain lead factory rounds.
    Good for both rifle and handgun......supposedly.  Definitely very anemic like firing a mortar not a rifle at all.

    I found these in the stash.
    Weight is 120 grains with the gas check. I believe I got these from our own Saco many moons ago.
    I started with 11.5 grains of 4227 and now it sings.


    The sight now is dead on height wise where before it was substantially low.
    It's a bit right now where before it was a few inches left.
    I did readjust when I got home.

    As Zee would say.....progress.

    It's gone from mediocre to this is really going to shoot well

    The guns starting to like me now.
    Showing some real potential.

    Today was fun


  • sakodudesakodude Senior Member Posts: 4,709 Senior Member
    Nice. That rifle is going to prove to be a fun shooter. I can make you more of those if useful.
  • JunkCollectorJunkCollector Posts: 1,316 Senior Member
    edited September 27 #61
    I think the rifle and I both like them a lot. :smile:
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