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41magnut41magnut Posts: 1,306 Senior Member
https://www.savagearms.com/content?p=firearms&a=product_summary&s=57859

Anybody seen one of these in the wild, or real world experience?

I've  never been a fan of Savage but perhaps I should reconsider?
"The .30-06 is never a mistake." Townsend Whelen :iwo:

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  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,395 Senior Member
    Messed with one at a LGS. 
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,755 Senior Member
    Zee said:
    Messed with one at a LGS. 
    And? My thought was  that it would work well for a person that often loaded just one cartridge at a time, like at the range.
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,407 Senior Member
    Intriguing….  But, for that kind of cash I’d expect to get a lot more than a different type of bolt.  Needs further research.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,755 Senior Member
    I would like to see one in .308 Win
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • JKPJKP Posts: 2,771 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    I would like to see one in .308 Win
    That's one of the options. Buy one and let us know how it performs!
  • Uncle FesterUncle Fester Posts: 1,644 Senior Member
    Intriguing….  But, for that kind of cash I’d expect to get a lot more than a different type of bolt.  Needs further research.
    I have a Browning T Bolt rifle which has a straight pull action.  Once I got used to it, it was much faster/slicker than working a traditional bolt action.  I came away thinking I wanted a straight pull center-fire rifle. It would make it very easy to get off a follow up shot.

     Unfortunately, at that time, the only straight pull rifles available at that time were extremely expensive European rifles.

    I haven't seen the Savage straight pull in the wild, but I would expect the action to be very slick.  It also has the advantage of being easily switched to left handed.

    The downsides of all straight pull actions:

    1) They are more complicated to build than traditional bolt actions.  All things being equal, they will cost more to build.  Savage's version is significantly less expensive than other straight pull rifles.

    2) They tend to be a little heavier than a bolt action.  To address that issue, Savage is rolling out lighter versions.  But, it is still over 7lbs while the similar 110 Ultralight bolt action Savages are under 6lbs.

    https://www.americanhunter.org/content/new-for-2022-savage-arms-impulse-mountain-hunter/

    Imo - the normal version would be great for a Hunter who doesn't need a lightweight rifle.  
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,755 Senior Member
    JKP said:
    Diver43 said:
    I would like to see one in .308 Win
    That's one of the options. Buy one and let us know how it performs!
    I would love to.  But, I recently retired, moved, and paid cash for our new house.  No sooner got here and the wife was in the hospital having emergency surgery and still recovering.   Once I get unpacked, have a fence/gate put up and the rest if the minor repairs done,  i will be shopping for a new rifle.  
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 584 Senior Member
    Intriguing….  But, for that kind of cash I’d expect to get a lot more than a different type of bolt.  Needs further research.
    I have a Browning T Bolt rifle which has a straight pull action.  Once I got used to it, it was much faster/slicker than working a traditional bolt action.  I came away thinking I wanted a straight pull center-fire rifle. It would make it very easy to get off a follow up shot.

     Unfortunately, at that time, the only straight pull rifles available at that time were extremely expensive European rifles.

    I haven't seen the Savage straight pull in the wild, but I would expect the action to be very slick.  It also has the advantage of being easily switched to left handed.

    The downsides of all straight pull actions:

    1) They are more complicated to build than traditional bolt actions.  All things being equal, they will cost more to build.  Savage's version is significantly less expensive than other straight pull rifles.

    2) They tend to be a little heavier than a bolt action.  To address that issue, Savage is rolling out lighter versions.  But, it is still over 7lbs while the similar 110 Ultralight bolt action Savages are under 6lbs.


    And, if my K31 SR is any indication...
    3) they lack as strong a camming action to feed or extract a case
    "For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,860 Senior Member
    They're claiming over 7 pounds for their mountain model.  This is WITH an aluminum receiver, and a carbon-fiber wrapped barrel.

    Dunno. . .my Pop has a bunch of joint reconstructions that now make it hard for him to crank a traditional bolt action in a hurry.  He's now hunting with a comparatively rainbow-trajectory lever action because of it, so, there might be a niche there.

    But for the rest of us, I don't see cranking up  60 to 90 degrees as a major imposition.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • ZeeZee Posts: 28,395 Senior Member
    Diver43 said:
    Zee said:
    Messed with one at a LGS. 
    And? My thought was  that it would work well for a person that often loaded just one cartridge at a time, like at the range.
    I didn’t buy it. 😁
    "To Hell with efficiency, it's performance we want!" - Elmer Keith
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Posts: 6,112 Senior Member
    The cost and complexity cause it to be a non-starter for me. $1500+ for a Savage, for me, isn't worth it. The few samples I've looked at in the last two years or so IMO left a lot to be desired as far as quality of finish, etc.

    To me a Savage is a good $500-$700 gun I can suggest to a new hunter or someone who I know isn't a "gun person," and that gun will work for the rest of their life.
    - I am a rifleman with a poorly chosen screen name. -
    "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and speed is the economy of motion" - Scott Jedlinski
  • FreezerFreezer Posts: 2,753 Senior Member
    Bigslug, I don't mean to hijack the thread, but have you considered a Browning lever or auto for your father?
    I like Elmer Keith; I married his daughter :wink:
  • MileHighShooterMileHighShooter Posts: 4,997 Senior Member
    I've handled them at work.  Kinda "meh". Not sure they'll last very long,  most of the savage guns over 700 seem to linger in the shelf for a LONG time.  From what I see doing final 4473 checks,  I see a WHOLE lot more Tikka, Bergara and Browning guns going out the door in that 800-1200 range. I can see longevity/ durability being an issue,  their stocks are made of incredibly soft plastic.  We have to vault every gun every night,  and every few months we have to massively discount Savage guns because they stocks get destroyed by basic handling 10 to 1 over any other brand
  • 41magnut41magnut Posts: 1,306 Senior Member
    .......We have to vault every gun every night,  and every few months we have to massively discount Savage guns because they stocks get destroyed by basic handling 10 to 1 over any other brand.....
    Sorta Kinda hi-jack alert.

    Since you mentioned this, a local big-box f/a retailer had an upper level  Kimber rifle chambered in 280 AI. A Montana, maybe? 
    This item was under consideration so I asked for a closer look. The new rifle looked like it had resided under the seat of the pick up for some time.

    I suppose this is just a fact of life with daily handling of display models, but I was not inclined to pay close to 2G + TTL for 2ND hand appearance.

        
     
    "The .30-06 is never a mistake." Townsend Whelen :iwo:
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