7 Mag. Scope Mount Bases

snake284

I think it was Jayhawker that gave me the link to EGW where I bought a Picatinny Rail for my old pre-Accutrigger Savage 110 7 Rem. Mag. Thanks Jayhawker, they seem to be good folks to deal with. And I like the way they catalog the parts. It takes the guess work out of which part you need to order. I'll let everyone know how their products turn out, but if the products are as good as the site, then I am optimistic about their quality and fit. I'll let everyone know when I get the rail fit.

You can see the shim I made out of a wide saw blade. It brought it to the correct height but the groups suck. I don't think it's a solid mount. Maybe it's uneven. Whatever, I have the EGW rail ordered and it should be here any day. Then I can get back to my load work.

Ernie Bishop

For most applications the EGW is a good product for a good price.

snake284

If it will just withstand a little recoil I think it will do fine. When I first got the gun from the Gun Broker Auction I put a Nikon Buckmaster scope on it and everything was hunky dori until I figured out that my .223's accuracy problems werent' scope related. So I ended up swapping the Buckmaster that I bought for it on the Stevens .223. I had swapped scopes with my 22-250 when the .223 was shooting like a shot gun and wanted to see if it was the scope causing it. I put my Leupold VX-1 4-12x40 on the .223 and put the Nikon 6-18x40 w/BDC reticle on the .22-250. The .22-250 commenced to shooting 1/2 inch groups so I knew it wasn't the scope. Also, the VX-1 didn't do anything for the .223. It still shot like a shotgun and it had been very accurate on the 22-250 Rem.700 ADL Synthetic. Then when I bought the 7 Mag. off Gun Broker I bought another Buckmaster 6-18x40 but this time with Mil-Dot Reticle. I had it on the 7 mag. about two months until after I bedded the .223's action in and changed my bullet seating. Then when the .223's groups tightened up to under an inch, I swapped scopes again, putting the Buckmaster with Mil-Dot Reticle on the .223 and the 4-12x40 Leupold VX-1 on the 7 mag. After I made the swap, I took it to the range and when I tried to change the power setting from 12 to a lower setting, I found that the power adjustment ring was rubbing against the rear scope mount ring. I tried different rings but it still rubbed. So I ordered a front base that was extended. I turned it around so it pushed the rear scope mount ring forward away from the scopes power adjustment ring. However when I took the rifle to the range and tried to bore sight it, I found I didn't have enough down elevation to get on target. That's when i tried to shim the rear base. But I didn't have enough shims. Edited to add: So after a wild goose chase around this one horse town trying to find some shim stock with no luck, I took a wide saw blade I had and cut a shim out of hit. The saw blade was about .040 thick which was just about right for what I needed but the rifle shot like hell with it. Yes I did check to see if everyhing was tight and it was. So I decided to get the EGW Picatinny Rail.

Ernie Bishop

A decent pic rail (1 or 2-piece) and a set of Burris Signature Zee Rings will solve most problems.

shooter

I have used EGW bases on several Savage rifles, both pre Accu-trigger (flat rear) and Accu-trigger (round rear) and they are a real bargain @ about $40 from Midway.

snake284

I got this one from the EGW site. It should be here today I hope. If so I'll put it on and head for the range. Next project-a softer pad for this kicking MULE of a 7 mag.

Edited to Add: YEAH I know, so I'm a wimp...

deadeye

Mike, this will tame her down for you. http://www.harrellsprec.com/

deadeye

I went through one barrel on my .300 Win Mag bare back. Got a Vias on the new Shilen SS match barrel and love it. Dont have anything to prove anymore..... lol

snake284

Thanks Carl, I bookmarked the site. That's what I'm talking about! I need that brake. If I had a brake I know my groups would improve but as it is I cannot stop flinching. That thing kicks like a mule because it's so light and also because the pad is so hard. I can get this brake and have it put on probably cheaper or at least as cheap as I can buy a pad and have it fitted. Other than the recoil, I am loving this rifle. It just fits me so nice and is so well balanced. That's another thing to think about with a brake. Will the weight of the brake upset the balance as much as the possibility of the length of pull upsetting it fitting me? But I'm willing to try the brake. I feel the balance wouldn't be upset as much as the fit would be. I don't like cutting on butt stocks.

Ernie Bishop

Snake if you will do all of your shooting from the bench or elevated away from the ground a full profile brake is great-I have several of them.
If in hunting or practicing you shoot from the prone position I would highly recommend a solid bottom brake

Jayhawker

Snake...So why do you keep beating yourself up and letting your accuracy suffer in the process?...while you're waiting for the brake...get yourself a P.A.S.T. recoil shield...just wear the thing while you're shooting and the recoil problem will go away...

Six-Gun

Jayhawker wrote: »

Snake...So why do you keep beating yourself up and letting your accuracy suffer in the process?...while you're waiting for the brake...get yourself a P.A.S.T. recoil shield...just wear the thing while you're shooting and the recoil problem will go away...

Yup. Money well spent. I have shoot some serious magnum calibers (think .375 H&H and .458 Win Mag) with one of their pads and the difference is like night and day. It won't tame ALL of the recoil, but it makes a huge difference.

snake284

cpj wrote: »

Dude, its a SAVAGE! Its already ugly. (so the haters say)Just slip one of these on it and be done. You can pick one up at your local Walmarts.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/37012

DUDE! My Savage is NOT Ugly! Though it is a thing of beauty only to the educated and not to the ignorant masses!!! I love it, but then again I'm not above using such slip on pad either. If I can find one I'll try it, but is it a one size fits all, or do they make them for specific rifles?

tennmike

Snake, get the P.A.S.T. Recoil Shield like already suggested. They are worth it, and you only need the one for all your rifles and shotguns. I've got one, and it makes a .338 Mag. more than tolerable to shoot. :up:

Jayhawker

snake284 wrote: »

If I can find one I'll try it,

Geez dude...please don't do that...you're way past amateur hour...a P.A.S.T. pad will take care of your issues.

snake284

Sorry, I didn't see your post. I was gonna get the P.A.S.T. anyway. But I will try it before I spend anymore money. I'm just looking at all my options here.

snake284

Also, as much as this rifle is knocking me around, it is not one bit worse than that old .270 of mine. What is said on here about the rifle's weight and stock design is right on. Those two parameters make a world of difference. I'm getting the P.A.S.T. and soon. I don't think I'm making another range trip with either one of these rifles until I do because I do not enjoy getting beat up. The rest of my rifles I can deal with, but those two just kick my butt big time. Well my one 30-06 that I shoot the 200 grain load does shove me back a bit, but these two slap hell out of you.

jbohio

It's like I'm talking to a wall.........

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/206784/pachmayr-decelerator-recoil-pad-prefit-savage-110-d-series-pre-1996-wood-stock-black
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/284105/past-mag-plus-recoil-pad-shield-ambidextrous

snake284

Ok I finally got the rail base mount today and mounted it. Tomorrow if it isn't raining I'll take it out and sight it in and see how it's shooting.





I took a couple of pics of it mounted on the rifle. Anyway, next I'm going to fix that recoil problem

I like these Weaver Quad Lock rings and they were pretty cheap, I think about $9. I'll see how they do, and if they don't hold up I'll go with the Burris rings.

jbohio

There you go! Now you can center the rings on the scope, if you're so inclined, move it wherever you want for eye relief.
Are the rings tall enough? Looks like the power ring and the scope bell are hitting the rail. I had trouble with that on one I put together for a guy.

snake284

jbohio wrote: »

There you go! Now you can center the rings on the scope, if you're so inclined, move it wherever you want for eye relief.
Are the rings tall enough? Looks like the power ring and the scope bell are hitting the rail. I had trouble with that on one I put together for a guy.

No, they barely clear. I can see daylight between the bell and the front of the rail on both sides and there's about an 8th inch clearance in the rear. I had to manuver the scope forward a hair for the bell the clear. I do love it though. And it fits me real nice. I worked on the eye relief and the clearance of the rail at the same time and I throw it up and it's just right. I love a scope that's low.

Now to see if the cheap Weaver rings are up to the task. They cost all of about $9.00. I think they're up to it. But I need to get it sighted in and shoot a few rounds through it to see if it's solid. But I like the concept of the two narrow rings because a narrow surface puts more pressure per square inch on an area than a wide one. These rings have two small bands per ring and four screws, two per band. That holds the scope nice and tight to keep it from moving.

Actually though the scope looks low, after looking at the package they came in again they are medium rings not low. But they just fit me where I don't have to crouch down on the rifle to see through the scope but yet I don't have to extend my neck up either. My cheek is on the but stock and my eye is almost perfectly aligned with the center of the scope.

snake284

Well the EGW Rail worked great. I had plenty of room on the scope adjustments to dial it in. And also the Weaver Quadlock rings hold the scope fast to the base mount. Now I need to load some more of those 160 grain HP Game Kings up and take it after a hog. For now I cured my recoil problem with a sweater folded and held over my shoulder. It took the major recoil out of the game. Now I need to get me a pad AND a P.A.S.T. before I shoot it again. The Rifle Basix trigger really helped tighten things up today. I love the way it snaps, like a glass tube breaking clean. I'm really falling in love with this old Savage. Now for a shot at a hog.