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Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,777 Senior Member
Many years ago our one and only@Bigslug, posted this regarding his beloved 1911.  A copy sat next to my workbench for a long time.  Sometimes back I asked him about it for a new handgun enthusiast, but he didn't remember it.  While unpacking after the move, I found my original copy in a document protector.  It is as useful today as it was 100 years ago as not much has changed.  
Thanks Big
Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5

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  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,876 Senior Member
    When I am King:

    You don't graduate middle school until you can field strip a 1911, and you don't graduate high school until you can detail strip without tools.  Hee!
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,442 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    When I am King:

    You don't graduate middle school until you can field strip a 1911, and you don't graduate high school until you can detail strip without tools.  Hee!
    I agree!!! 👍

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,861 Senior Member
    Hey Big, this got me thinking, I know this has been discussed a bit, have you taken down an RIA, Girsan, Tisa, ATI, Palmetto, or Armscor 1911 lately? Not lately? Anything that impressed you, if so? 
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,876 Senior Member
    Been through and shot a couple RIA/Armscorps - a little sharp-edged in spots, but serviceable guns.

    Gone through and shot one Tisas recently.  Aside from their OEM magazines having a slightly depressed right-side feed lip to work with a mag catch that protrudes too a little far into the mag well to accept a "correct" magazine without depressing the button slightly first, I had no complaints - certainly not at the price (a little careful filing and it behaves itself now).

    I've developed a decent bit of respect for these as being more true to the original military gun than a lot of what's being shoveled on us as "necessary" in a 1911.  The 1941-45 guns were certainly not costing Uncle Sam the period equivalent of a thousand or more of today's dollars, and they were cranked out walking the line between making sure they worked  and shot where they were aimed on the one hand and the certain knowledge that a number of them would end up at the bottom of the ocean without ever seeing the enemy on the other.  To speed production under press of war, a lot of the WWII slides were spot-hardened at the front and around the slide stop and disassembly notches.  In that sense, the Turk and Philippine slides may be more durable for round count than the "real thing".  

    They are not Les Baer or Springfield Custom, nor are they trying to be at $500 or less.  For that I am thankful - that somebody still understands that pistols and sniper rifle tolerances do not necessarily have to be paired.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • CHIRO1989CHIRO1989 Posts: 14,861 Senior Member
    Thanks
    I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn away from their ways and live. Eze 33:11
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    BigSlug, I bought 2 used mags today for my Tisas. One is stamped Colt 1911 or 45acp on the bottom. The other one has an extension on it. Reckon they’ll work?

    I paid $20 for both so I’m 
    not out much if they don’t. 
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,876 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    BigSlug, I bought 2 used mags today for my Tisas. One is stamped Colt 1911 or 45acp on the bottom. The other one has an extension on it. Reckon they’ll work?

    I paid $20 for both so I’m 
    not out much if they don’t. 
    No reason they shouldn't function once you get them in.

    What's SUPPOSED to happen is the sidewall of the mag strikes a beveled surface on the mag catch pushing it slightly to the right until the mag inserts to the point of the mag's catch notch lining up, at which point the catch snaps back and locks in.

    The issue with the one I worked on was that the mag catch came into the frame too far, and for reasons known only to Tisas, their answer was to put a  bevel IN THE TOP OF THE MAGS instead of rectify the spec on their mag catch.  A standard mag without that bevel runs into a hard wall of an insufficiently beveled mag catch.  Easy enough to replace or file the OEM mag catch to fit like a proper one, but until you do, you'll probably have to depress the mag catch slightly on insertion to get a non-Tisas mag to insert.

    Try your newly acquired mags and get back to us.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    edited March 12 #9
    Thank you. I’m on Spring Break next week. Maybe the weather will let me try them. 
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member


    Anyone know what brand this might be?
  • sakodudesakodude Posts: 4,885 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:


    Anyone know what brand this might be?
    looks like the Dillon precision logo
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    Thanks. This mag doesn’t go in the gun easy. I don’t think I want to use it  The other mag inserts easier. I don’t have to press the mag catch with either one. The 2nd one also pops right out. The first one doesn’t 

  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member


    This another view of the one I posted earlier 
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    sakodude said:
    RugerFan said:


    Anyone know what brand this might be?
    looks like the Dillon precision logo
    Sure is. Thanks for the information. 
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 600 Senior Member
    @RugerFan You can trade them in for brand new Ed Brown mags for $10
    https://www.edbrown.com/magexchange/
    "For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson
  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    edited March 12 #16
    GrapeApe said:
    @RugerFan You can trade them in for brand new Ed Brown mags for $10
    https://www.edbrown.com/magexchange/
    @GrapeApe I am VERY grateful, sir!!!  I will certainly do this!!!!
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 600 Senior Member
    You are quite welcome

    @breamfisher mentioned it a while back
    "For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson
  • BigslugBigslug Posts: 9,876 Senior Member
    sakodude said:
    RugerFan said:


    Anyone know what brand this might be?
    looks like the Dillon precision logo
    Not necessarily an indicator of who made the mag, as mags with drilled floorplates and the screw-on bumpers to mate up to them are available separately.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,442 Senior Member
    Bigslug said:
    sakodude said:
    RugerFan said:


    Anyone know what brand this might be?
    looks like the Dillon precision logo
    Not necessarily an indicator of who made the mag, as mags with drilled floorplates and the screw-on bumpers to mate up to them are available separately.
    That’s correct.  You are (or were able to) those DP bumpers by themselves.  You need to take the bumper off and see if it’s stamped on the plate.  The shape of the follower tends to be another indicator if plate is not marked.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • RugerFanRugerFan Posts: 2,879 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    GrapeApe said:
    @RugerFan You can trade them in for brand new Ed Brown mags for $10
    https://www.edbrown.com/magexchange/
    @GrapeApe I am VERY grateful, sir!!!  I will certainly do this!!!!
    Well, life got in the way and I just today, got around to trying these 2 used mags I bought in March. 

    No problem seating or ejecting either one. Shot one mag through each without a problem. 

    I did think about swapping them but I guess I’ll keep’em. No more than I shoot they should do fine. 

    My son finally tried the 8 rd Chip McCormack he bought for his Tisas. It was flawless also 

    So far no issues with our two Tisas 1911s. 
  • GrapeApeGrapeApe Posts: 600 Senior Member
    Glad it's working out for you
    "For longer range, use a bigger case. For bigger game, use a bigger bullet." - Dan Johnson
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,442 Senior Member
    RugerFan said:
    RugerFan said:
    GrapeApe said:
    @RugerFan You can trade them in for brand new Ed Brown mags for $10
    https://www.edbrown.com/magexchange/
    @GrapeApe I am VERY grateful, sir!!!  I will certainly do this!!!!
    Well, life got in the way and I just today, got around to trying these 2 used mags I bought in March. 

    No problem seating or ejecting either one. Shot one mag through each without a problem. 

    I did think about swapping them but I guess I’ll keep’em. No more than I shoot they should do fine. 

    My son finally tried the 8 rd Chip McCormack he bought for his Tisas. It was flawless also 

    So far no issues with our two Tisas 1911s. 
    That’s great news!

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • BamaakIIIBamaakIII Posts: 9 New Member
    edited May 12 #23
    Speaking of 1911s, my SIL bought a brand new sig 1911 only to have the slide blow up on the second mag.  He was shooting my reloads which shot fine in my shield. Only loaded to about 850 fps.  They were quite accurate IMO. But it came apart like it was an OOB firing, right near the ejection port.  Chunk hit him in face.  I think he told sig it was Winchester white box.  Don't think he has heard back from them yet.
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,442 Senior Member
    BamaakIII said:
    Speaking of 1911s, my SIL bought a brand new sig 1911 only to have the slide blow up on the second mag.  He was shooting my reloads which shot fine in my shield. Only loaded to about 850 fps.  They were quite accurate IMO. But it came apart like it was an OOB firing, right near the ejection port.  Chunk hit him in face.  I think he told sig it was Winchester white box.  Don't think he has heard back from them yet.
    Damn that sucks!  Would love to hear Kimber’s reaction to this.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

  • BamaakIIIBamaakIII Posts: 9 New Member
    BamaakIII said:
    Speaking of 1911s, my SIL bought a brand new sig 1911 only to have the slide blow up on the second mag.  He was shooting my reloads which shot fine in my shield. Only loaded to about 850 fps.  They were quite accurate IMO. But it came apart like it was an OOB firing, right near the ejection port.  Chunk hit him in face.  I think he told sig it was Winchester white box.  Don't think he has heard back from them yet.
    Damn that sucks!  Would love to hear Kimber’s reaction to this.
    Found out they replaced it.
  • Diver43Diver43 Posts: 12,777 Senior Member
    edited May 16 #26
    Surprised they did not ask for the rest of the Winchester white box ammo to test
    Logistics cannot win a war, but its absence or inadequacy can cause defeat. FM100-5
  • Wambli SkaWambli Ska Posts: 5,442 Senior Member
    BamaakIII said:
    BamaakIII said:
    Speaking of 1911s, my SIL bought a brand new sig 1911 only to have the slide blow up on the second mag.  He was shooting my reloads which shot fine in my shield. Only loaded to about 850 fps.  They were quite accurate IMO. But it came apart like it was an OOB firing, right near the ejection port.  Chunk hit him in face.  I think he told sig it was Winchester white box.  Don't think he has heard back from them yet.
    Damn that sucks!  Would love to hear Kimber’s reaction to this.
    Found out they replaced it.
    Excellent!  Hey everyone puts out a mistake sometime.

    It’s a °IIIII° thing 😎

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