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Russian Capture K-98s @ Classic Arms

Big ChiefBig Chief Senior MemberPosts: 32,995 Senior Member
Classic Arms posted some and they were gone fast, I didn't even know it. More on Feb the 1st. Seems to a hot item for MILSURP nuts and go quick. These are from different years/codes of Mfr. Up around $ 380-400 now I hear. Marking are supposed to be intact (mostly), fer those who desire that.

AKA RC-98s.

They say WWII rifles and anything WWII are selling like Hotcakes lately.

http://www.classicarms.us/daniel%20defense.htm



I have an excellent Yugo 24/47 in 8mm I bought from Classic with a mirror bright bore a few years ago, much better than what I've seen lately on the MILSURP market and much cheaper. I guess it would have to be really special (and probably would be $$$) for me to want another 8mm. Good cartridge, not something you would want to shoot all day long.

To find out what there WERE going fer I had to poke around the Net. Looks like they will have little trouble selling any more they post.

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=66106

And check out this guys MILSURP collection. Scroll down page.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?252777-Classics-Arms&p=2020821
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  • 30-30shooter30-30shooter Member Posts: 224 Member
    i looked into that but then i read that all they post are usually gone in half an hour.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I guess I'm a collector of MILSURPS to a degree, but I want mine to be good shooters and I shoot them all. I'm not a "Collector" in the purest sense of the term.

    Same fer handguns, I won't buy a revolver and never rotate its cylinder or never fire it. If I were independently wealthy, maybe. In the famous words of Skeeter Skelton (I believe it was) in response to a Letter to the Editor in a gun rag..............Why let some SOB enjoy your gun long after you are gone, shoot it and enjoy it while you can. or something to that effect. I totally agree.
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  • woodsrunnerwoodsrunner Senior Member Posts: 2,725 Senior Member
    Yea, guess I'm a collector of some sorts myself, though I don't put as much importance on MILSURPS as I do on original and contemporary flintlocks. I bought a RC several years ago and paid $180. IIRC .It has a Sauer '41 barrel and receiver, but everything else is a mix-master. All early '40-'41 parts, though, and with the German Army "H" on the stock. Serious collectors have little interest in RC's, but to me these pieces reek with history. My RC, for example.....what's the probability it saw service in the initial invasion of Russia? Probably pretty high, though I'll never know for sure. But with the dates correlated with the parts of the piece, I think it's pretty high.

    Also have a '37 Oberndorf 98k that I traded off Teach, and this piece is almost perfect and with a pristine bore. It was issued to the Luftwaffe, and I don't think it saw any service other than guard duty around an airfield or two! It's all matching except for the bolt which is all matching to itsself. Again, serious collectors would frown at the bolt not being original to the piece, but to me it's "history" again. This 98k was without a doubt surrendered to Allied personnel who immediately removed the bolt to render the piece harmless.

    Then I've got my RockIsland/Springfield '03, documented to have been issued to the 4th Marines (China Marines), and it probably saw service early in WWII before the Marines were issued M-1's. History, again, and that's important to me. Got a couple of other MILSURPS. A Winchester Mod 52 .22lr issued to the Army in 1929 and to me via the CMP, and a Turk Mauser compliments, again, of Teach. I could get serious about MILSURPS, so I better be careful!
  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Yea, guess I'm a collector of some sorts myself, though I don't put as much importance on MILSURPS as I do on original and contemporary flintlocks. I bought a RC several years ago and paid $180. IIRC .It has a Sauer '41 barrel and receiver, but everything else is a mix-master. All early '40-'41 parts, though, and with the German Army "H" on the stock. Serious collectors have little interest in RC's, but to me these pieces reek with history. My RC, for example.....what's the probability it saw service in the initial invasion of Russia? Probably pretty high, though I'll never know for sure. But with the dates correlated with the parts of the piece, I think it's pretty high.

    Also have a '37 Oberndorf 98k that I traded off Teach, and this piece is almost perfect and with a pristine bore. It was issued to the Luftwaffe, and I don't think it saw any service other than guard duty around an airfield or two! It's all matching except for the bolt which is all matching to itsself. Again, serious collectors would frown at the bolt not being original to the piece, but to me it's "history" again. This 98k was without a doubt surrendered to Allied personnel who immediately removed the bolt to render the piece harmless.

    Then I've got my RockIsland/Springfield '03, documented to have been issued to the 4th Marines (China Marines), and it probably saw service early in WWII before the Marines were issued M-1's. History, again, and that's important to me. Got a couple of other MILSURPS. A Winchester Mod 52 .22lr issued to the Army in 1929 and to me via the CMP, and a Turk Mauser compliments, again, of Teach. I could get serious about MILSURPS, so I better be careful!

    Yes and you advised me to by a RC a couple years back and I dragged my feet. Now they're out of my range. Oh well, maybe I'll luck out some day and hit the lotto.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Like Chief said, he bought a Yugo. Well so did I. They are usually in excellent shape. I bought 4 of em, 3 complete rifles and one barreled action when they were around $150. I got the barreled action for $135 or so and it was really in nice condition. The blue was black and shiny. The action was slicker n a baby's butt and that's the one I took down to my Gunsmith and had it made into a custom .257 AI. He presently has another one I left him when I picked up the .257 AI that I'm having him sporter and it will be left as an 8mm for a while anyway. I will probably have him rebarrel it to 6mm Rem. in a year or two, but for now it will be an 8mm sporter. That is unless I grow to love the thing in 8mm. Then I'll find something else to rebarrel to a 6mm.

    I realize yugos don't command the price of a RC or any 98K because they were made after WWII. But they are as strong and are good shooters and like I said, most I've seen were in great shape. I don't know what the price on them is now, but I would imagine they're over $200.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    I think the 24/47s were reworked 24s/arsenal refurbished and mostly given new barrels, from what I've read.
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  • snake284snake284 Senior Member Posts: 22,429 Senior Member
    Yeah, maybe I got that wrong. I thought they were made in '47 but on a '24 pattern. Now I'm gonna feel bad about butchering a collector, LOL!!!
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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I bought some nice 98Ks when SARCO had them, too bad I don't have one now.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    snake284 wrote: »
    Yeah, maybe I got that wrong. I thought they were made in '47 but on a '24 pattern. Now I'm gonna feel bad about butchering a collector, LOL!!!

    I also read they are "Intermediate Large Ring Mausers", but I don't know for a fact about that. Teach?
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  • DanChamberlainDanChamberlain Senior Member Posts: 3,395 Senior Member
    The "24-47" rifles were originally 24 pattern rifles made before the war, and re-manufactured in Yugo in 47. Some were made by the Czechs, some by other european factories, but they were all "pre-war" pieces originally. The "48" Yugos, were made beginning in 48 and onward. The 24/47s generally command a slightly higher price than the 48s as there are no stamped parts. They are rugged rifles. Mine is very nice and a very good shooter, but I don't really use it much anymore. There is a club about 30 miles from me that regularly has milsurp matches in the summer. I might get interested again.
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