New TV show... Doomsday Preppers

jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior MemberPosts: 9,453 Senior Member
Might DVR a couple. See if they are going to have any serious info, or just make everyone look like nut jobs (although I'm sure they found some real nut jobs too)....

I'd like to be more prepared. But for maybe an ice storm or something that would stop things up for a couple weeks. I'll never be set up for years off the grid....

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/

[video]http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/[/video]
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,651 Senior Member
    This should be interesting.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 6,942 Senior Member
    December 21st, 2012: After that terrible day, long awaited with nervous anticipation by millions, the human race will be forced by a powerful and irreversible destiny into two distinct groups:

    1. Archaeologists who give a crap about the Mayans

    2. Everybody else.
    WWJMBD?

    "Nothing is safe from stupid." - Zee
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    I have "prepped" a little but no where near what these guys do. Mostly I'm just set up for a really bad winter storm or something along the lines of that.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,453 Senior Member
    Quinian wrote: »
    I have "prepped" a little but no where near what these guys do. Mostly I'm just set up for a really bad winter storm or something along the lines of that.

    I finally got my generator. Need to find a way to hook to my electric panel, then open only the breaker I want furnace/ water heater/ fridge. Thinking a RV plug and ext cord..
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • orchidmanorchidman Senior Member Posts: 7,698 Senior Member
    Dont know if its the same program but there was one a few months back on either Discovery, History or Nat Geo about preppers.

    Interesting mindset.

    One group of preppers, 2 or 3 families, bought a lifestyle farm block out in the woods somewhere. One was ex military, and had set up things like forward observation posts etc. All the members of each family had an AR/AK and handgun and everyone was required to practise regularly with them.
    Still enjoying the trip of a lifetime and making the best of what I have.....
  • ezzriderezzrider Member Posts: 63 Member
    I personally know people whom I consider very intelligent that have/are getting ready for some sort of catastrophe. Their main concern is failing of financial markets and a collapse of our entire financial system that will send millions to the streets attempting to find food and other necessary items. Some of those have gone to various lengths in preparation from building safe houses/areas for multiple families to hidden areas on farms in the middle of nowhere. These people have spent tons of money and time on this.

    I personally always have supplies on had in case of hurricanes as we live in Florida. Where we have lost all power in the past. If that happens you need cash to buy things as with no power your credit cards don't work. You need to have a host of basic survival items on hand starting with generator, fuel for the generator, clean water and canned foods. The other problem is panic buying. In the past with hurricane warnings I have been to very large Publics Grocery stores to find almost nothing on the shelves. Panic buying is pretty scary and when people panic you have problems. During hurricanes in the past we actually had generators stolen while they were still running out of peoples garages. They had to keep the garage door open a bit for the exhaust and the thieves could hear the generators running. I am lucky that I live on 3 acres fenced with a gate but in the end that would only give me a little advanced notice the bad guys were coming down the drive. The rest is up to me and my firepower. Unfortunately when a disaster happens your law enforcement most likely will not be able to timely respond leaving you to fend for yourself and protect your family. This is an interesting subject. I pray we never need to deal with this.
  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    I saw the previews for the show. They made damn sure to show all of them firing all assortments of guns which kinda makes gun owners look like a bunch of jack crazies. There might be some people on there that are simply preparing for any national emergency, or some goofs that are really awaiting zombies.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,255 Senior Member
    A lot of the real nutcases moved to the boondocks of Idaho a few years back. I think the lead detective in the O.J. Simpson case ended up somewhere up there, didn't he?
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    December 21st, 2012: After that terrible day, long awaited with nervous anticipation by millions, the human race will be forced by a powerful and irreversible destiny into two distinct groups:

    1. Archaeologists who give a crap about the Mayans

    2. Everybody else.

    ************************
    1. Antediluvian musty old academics who give a crap about the Mayans

    2. Everybody else.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,577 Senior Member
    Just saw the preview for the show. Not sure ill go out of my way to watch, but might watch a few if it happens to be on when I'm flipping. More than likely they're wasting their time and money, but I for one am glad they're doing it. Diversity in cultures and lifestyles is part of what makes our species so hard to kill off. They appear to be prepping for some low probability events, but if one of them does end up happening there will at least be a few prepared for it.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    If a true ELE affects this planet, In all probability there would be very little we could do about it.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    I think I'll start prepping for when SkyNet goes live :tooth:
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I will keep drinking Port wine and eat pretentious liver paste, quail eggs, over priced cheese and crackers until the bitter end.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • ezzriderezzrider Member Posts: 63 Member
    There have always been end of the world as we know it or just end of the world people out there. With all the absurd reality shows I am surprised it took this long for a Doomsday type show. I am old enough to remember the atomic bomb scares where we all got underneath our desks in grade school to protect ourselves from fallout! How obsurd was that but we all did it. There are still bomb shelters in existence that were built during that time in preparation of an atomic bomb attack. Remember us being told to have duck tape on hand to "seal off" our windows and doors in case of a dirty bomb attack. Also absurd. The emergency responders are wearing huge protective suits with breathing equipment and duck tape is supposed to protect the rest of us?
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,244 Senior Member
    ezzrider wrote: »
    Remember us being told to have duck tape on hand to "seal off" our windows and doors in case of a dirty bomb attack. Also absurd. The emergency responders are wearing huge protective suits with breathing equipment and duck tape is supposed to protect the rest of us?

    It does work better than happy thoughts! It is called shelter in place. An Emergency Preparedness strategy for when you have too many people to move to safety with the time available. Probably would work for some problems, with a certain amount of casualties almost inevitable. Save the most at the cost of the few.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • ezzriderezzrider Member Posts: 63 Member
    It does work better than happy thoughts! It is called shelter in place. An Emergency Preparedness strategy for when you have too many people to move to safety with the time available. Probably would work for some problems, with a certain amount of casualties almost inevitable. Save the most at the cost of the few.

    Actually back when all this came out I was told by an emergency responder that has some knowledge in this area that the duck tape idea just will not work. I still bought the duck tape though.
  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,255 Senior Member
    It is called shelter in place. An Emergency Preparedness strategy for when you have too many people to move to safety with the time available.

    Yep, that worked really well in New Orleans when Katrina hit. Of course, the incompetent politicians who wouldn't issue the evacuation orders or use the school buses they had on hand caused a lot of the problems during that goat-rope.
    Jerry
    Hide and wail in terror, Eloi- - - -We Morlocks are on the hunt!
    ASK-HOLE Someone who asks for advice and always does something opposite
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,244 Senior Member
    Teach wrote: »
    Yep, that worked really well in New Orleans when Katrina hit. Of course, the incompetent politicians who wouldn't issue the evacuation orders or use the school buses they had on hand caused a lot of the problems during that goat-rope.
    Jerry

    I would say they caused most of the problems. Katrina is the single greatest example of what can and will go wrong with a Shelter in place scenario.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Posts: 9,453 Senior Member
    You can't prepare enough for a ELE unless you are stupid rich, but to the people who say there is no need for preparedness. Remind them of Katrina, the LA roits, '98 ice storm, blizzard of '78........ and so on.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • VarmintmistVarmintmist Senior Member Posts: 6,461 Senior Member
    I would say they caused most of the problems. Katrina is the single greatest example of what can and will go wrong when you live below sea level and the politicians have stolen all the money that was supposed to repair the dikes to spend on welfare programs.

    Fixed that for you.

    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=swamp+castle+&view=detail&mid=0BA7D438CC88E851FC7A0BA7D438CC88E851FC7A&first=0&FORM=LKVR2
    Shelter in place is a great option. Don't build your house on a fault line, or in a area that is sinking below the surface of the ocean. Like I asked the people who tried to sell me flood insurance, "whos going to be left to pay? If I get flooded there will be a bearded guy in a big boat stopping by to pick up a horse or two and some dogs".
    It's boring, and your lack of creativity knows no bounds.
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,244 Senior Member
    ezzrider wrote: »
    Actually back when all this came out I was told by an emergency responder that has some knowledge in this area that the duck tape idea just will not work. I still bought the duck tape though.

    We still use Duct tape to cover seams in the level a suits to help keep the nasty on the outside. Some folks go crazy with the stuff, I tend to go along with one instructor I had, "If Duct tape was so great they would make the suits out of it." Whether it will work or not is open for debate, but, I still would try it if I needed too.
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • bruchibruchi Senior Member Posts: 2,582 Senior Member
    What was the date "Nostradamus" said we where going to check out?
    If this post is non welcomed, I can always give you a recipe for making "tostones".
  • KSU FirefighterKSU Firefighter Senior Member Posts: 3,244 Senior Member
    While watching one of the many 12/21/2012 Doomsday shows on TV, my wife asked me what we would be doing that day. I went and checked my work schedule on the calendar and replied, " I guess I'll be going in that morning to drive the Truck 2 like usual." No overtime for me if the world ends!

    :driving:


    But on the bright side I should have ring-side seats!:roll2:
    The fire service needs a "culture of extinguishment not safety" Ray McCormack FDNY
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 14,829 Senior Member
    I would say they caused most of the problems. Katrina is the single greatest example of what can and will go wrong with a Shelter in place scenario.

    Yep..sheltering in place during a tidal surge when you live below sea level....well, it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that it probably ain't the wisest choice...

    Actually the money they got for repairing the dikes was re-directed(stolen) to building that floating casino...that ended up, I believe laying on it's side on shore if I'm not mistaken...
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,577 Senior Member
    We still use Duct tape to cover seams in the level a suits to help keep the nasty on the outside. Some folks go crazy with the stuff, I tend to go along with one instructor I had, "If Duct tape was so great they would make the suits out of it." Whether it will work or not is open for debate, but, I still would try it if I needed too.

    The more important factor is to turn off your AC or heat. In a bio/chem/rad event the key is minimizing exposure time followed by rapid administration of medical treatment. If the concentrations are high enough you're screwed either way, but if they're low anything you can do to further reduce exposure increases your odds of survival. Taping off your house isn't magic, but it does give people something constructive to do and may reduce panic which in some cases may kill more people than the event itself. Plus panicing tends to increase your breathing rate which will directly increase your exposure rate.
    "Finding out that you have run out of toilet paper is a good example of lack of preparation, buying 10 years worth is silly"
    -DoctorWho
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I once asked a high functionary from FEMA about the contingency plan for N.Y.C in the event of some major catastrophe, he turned pale, shrieked like a little girl and ran off.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • BigDanSBigDanS Senior Member Posts: 6,788 Senior Member
    Doomsday Prep is not the same as Emergency Preparedness. Emergency Preparedness means being able to function for up to a month (IMHO ) without power or communications. I experienced this after Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Oddly enough the cell phones were up before the wireline, the satellite dishes worked before cable, and if you had gasoline in your car it was possible after the first week or so to drive out of the area.

    Things that happen that you may not plan for: no road signs, all blown over or gone. Streets impassable due to debris, fallen trees and water. No electricity, no gasoline from a local stations, no ATM, empty grocery stores, no hotel rooms available, no hospital beds available, roaming gangs looting.

    Getting out of the area, have some of the following in your bug out bag and vehicle; chain saw, two stroke gas, chain to pull away large trees in road, extra rope, extra gasoline, pry bars, lots of bottled water, food, a portable stove, guns and ammo at the ready, food for your pets and kids, play things and coloring books for your kids, food for you and yours, toilet articles, etc.. I could go on and on.

    At first people will be looking for help, then in anguish, then desparate for their supplies. You would not believe what people would do for a bag of ice in late August in South Florida, up to and including assault and attempted murder.

    Doomsday prep is a lot more detailed... head to Teach's and bring a lot of everything you got... ;)

    D
    "A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Mark Twain
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,822 Senior Member
    I like the concept. Having been through many blizzards in upstate NY, and hurricanes in FL, it still amazes me the amount of people that have done no preparation or gathering of supplies.

    On a side note, when I saw the title, my brain said doomsday peppers. A show about growing incredibly hot chile's.
    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
    Winston Churchill
  • pardogpardog Member Posts: 423 Member
    I haven't seen the show. I'm sure they are looking for dramatic excess and nuttiness to try and get people to watch, but I do believe that reasonable emergency preparedness is a good thing. I know lots of families that have lost jobs and experienced financial hard times that were glad they had food storage (and a freezer full of deer and elk) to fall back on. Natural disasters happen every year that leave people without immediate access to power, or a grocery store. Everybody has seen news stories of snow storms or whatever that has lead to stores running out of batteries, water, and other essentials. I served on committee a couple of years ago that was concerned about the bird flu (remember that one) and one thing I learned was that it is a real possibility (it's happened before) that a bad flu or other illness could shut things down for a period of time or at least make you not want to leave your house.
  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,551 Senior Member
    ezzrider wrote: »
    I am old enough to remember the atomic bomb scares where we all got underneath our desks in grade school to protect ourselves from fallout!

    Ah, yes...duck and cover...I remember it well. We did the same drill for nukes and tornadoes.

    When the fallout shelter craze was going full blast and all the neighbors were taking out loans to build them, I overheard my dad explaining to my mother why it was a waste of money. We lived more or less between the Pantex Ordnance Plant, an atomic bomb storage and maintenance facility, and Amarillo Air Force Base, which had a SAC unit, so we had no worries whatsoever about the lingering effects of fallout.
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