Good all around handgun for ccw and plinking?

RacrawfoRacrawfo New MemberPosts: 8 New Member
What do you guys think

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  • ghostsniper1ghostsniper1 Banned Posts: 2,645 Senior Member
    I suck at these kinds of things so I will wait for the gurus to put in their .02cents, but in the meantime, welcome aboard.
  • NNNN Senior Member Posts: 23,967 Senior Member
    Welcome aboard.

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  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    Before making any recommendations it would be good to know your experience level with handguns? Firearms in general?
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  • RacrawfoRacrawfo New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    Jayhawker wrote: »
    Before making any recommendations it would be good to know your experience level with handguns? Firearms in general?

    I am a avid hunter and own multiple long guns and very experienced with them but I am somewhat new to handguns and have shot a few of my buddies...

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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    I used to like the venerable S&W model 10 for general defense and plinking, ammo is not expensive and if you get into hand loading, you can plink / shoot for pennies a shot.

    I trashed many a soda can that way.
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  • BigslugBigslug Senior Member Posts: 7,038 Senior Member
    Glock 19.

    Reasonably small for CCW

    Big enough to be accurate

    Powerful enough to be effective

    Light enough recoil to teach the wimmin & kids to shoot with.

    .22 conversion kits are available - http://www.advantagearms.com/

    Resistant to abuse / neglect.

    Holds a buttload of ammo

    Cheap to feed.
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  • RacrawfoRacrawfo New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Glock 19.

    Reasonably small for CCW

    Big enough to be accurate

    Powerful enough to be effective

    Light enough recoil to teach the wimmin & kids to shoot with.

    .22 conversion kits are available - http://www.advantagearms.com/

    Resistant to abuse / neglect.

    Holds a buttload of ammo

    Cheap to feed.

    I shot my buddies flock 19 and didn't like the grip angle. The gun shot great though and my buddy loves it!

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  • TeachTeach Senior Member Posts: 18,412 Senior Member
    Racrawfo wrote: »
    I - - - - - - - - -have shot a few of my buddies...
    :tooth::tooth::tooth:

    I hope the wounds weren't too serious! Generally, plinking and self-defense guns don't have a lot in common. The most popular plinker handguns are .22 rimfire autoloading pistols, like the Ruger MK II, etc. or revolvers like the Single Six. Self defense handguns start about 9MM and go up in bore size, power, and ammo cost from there. A pretty good compromise might be a .357 revolver that can use .38 Special rounds as plinkers, and step up to some full-grown .357 Magnum loads for social work. Even when shooting generic .38's the plinker ammo cost will be several times what you'd spend on good-quality .22 rimfire.

    Shop the used gun case at a few gun shops, and you might be able to run across a .22 plinker and a decent-quality SD gun as a package deal for a reasonable cost. Unless they're abused, pre-owned guns are hard to wear out. They usually hold their value fairly well until you're ready to trade up, also. Welcome to the funny farm, BTW!
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  • jbohiojbohio Senior Member Posts: 5,508 Senior Member
    For a general, 1 gun, do it all, I'd have to say a 9mm for sure. Enough power to get the job done, yet reasonable ammo costs.
    My personal picks would be larger sized Kahr (T9, P9), Smith and Wesson M&P, or a Springfield XD. 4" barrel on any of them.
    A 5" barrel is better to plink with, but harder to conceal. Vice versa with a 3 or 3.5" barrel.
  • JayhawkerJayhawker Moderator Posts: 15,050 Senior Member
    Racrawfo wrote: »
    I am a avid hunter and own multiple long guns and very experienced with them but I am somewhat new to handguns and have shot a few of my buddies...

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    If you really want to get good with a handgun, get a good quality .22...such as a Browning Buckmark or one of the Ruger .22s....they will provide you with the ability to shoot....a lot, learn trigger control and sight alignment without invading your wallet...

    Of all the handguns we own in this house, our .22 sees the most use....

    As far as a CCW firearm are concerned...go to a range that rents firearms and try some until you find one that suits you...

    Even though you've ruled out Glocks, the XDs, S&W M&Ps, various 1911s, SIGs all bear looking at....and that's just the autoloaders....there are still revolvers to consider...
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  • bisleybisley Senior Member Posts: 10,651 Senior Member
    If grip angle is your only complaint against the Glock, you may just need to put a lot of rounds down-range to gain a full appreciation of it. I felt the same way when I first became interested in becoming proficient with self defense type handguns, and I had your approximate level of experience. I opted for the XD45 standard model, because of that, and it was a good choice. Since that time, I've shot several models of Glocks, and despite feeling a bit awkward at first, they were still easy to shoot well. The grip angle thing is just a perception, and for someone who practices as much as they should, really becomes a non-issue, quickly.

    Now, I have self defense handguns of various sizes and shapes. All of them 'feel' better than the one Glock I own, but none of them deliver more accuracy with me at the controls, and none are more reliable, by any reasonable standards that would apply to my situation.
  • NCFUBARNCFUBAR Senior Member Posts: 4,324 Senior Member
    What you can carry also kinda depends on your size and build plus your commitment to conceal. I'm 5' 11" weigh 180 lbs and conceal a commander size 1911 wearing jeans and an untucked knit shirt w/ a good holster and correct sized clothing most of the time. A lot of people like the smaller handguns but for me it works well, it is also is one of my plinkers and backup home defense handgun so it is one I work with a lot. When you go with the small, light pocket pistols you get ease of carry but sometimes you give up being able to put a couple hundred rounds down range because some of the little buggers are not really all that fun to shot.

    My basic suggestion is do not rush it and get your hands on all the different handguns you can. Look hard at the Springfield XD/XDM and the S&W M&P which come in a lot of configurations of caliber/size/controls. You have Ruger's offering and a mess of others ... do not rush it or let soemone talk you into something, it's like dating ... take 'em out and feed 'em and see if you communicate well before you propose.
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  • TugarTugar Senior Member Posts: 1,867 Senior Member
    Racrawfo wrote: »
    I shot my buddies flock 19 and didn't like the grip angle. The gun shot great though and my buddy loves it!

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    Go and try the CZ-75. You'll probably like the grip angle better. CZ's can be carried either DA or SA which makes them unique. Plus you can get the Cadet conversion to shoot 22lr in it.
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  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member Posts: 5,686 Senior Member
    I'll be way more generalized than most of you. I'd say a 4" to 6" S&W or Ruger revolver in .357mag and you can narrow it down from there based on your own preference. There's an abundance of cheap ammo and components out there, you can shoot light .38's to full power .357 magnum loads, and you can plink, have a fine self defense caliber, and even hunt with it at reasonable distances.
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  • gunrunner428gunrunner428 Senior Member Posts: 1,018 Senior Member
    For sheer versatility, I'm on the .357 Magnum revolver bandwagon. If you can't find something the gun shoots well, then you just haven't tried enough ammo yet. One benefit of a revolver that hasn't been mentioned yet is the grips. With a basic grip frame (or just the post down the grip like Ruger GP-100 and SP-101 uses) you can tailor the gun to your hand by selecting grips more than any auto, especially one-piece plastic frames like Glock et al.

    For general purpose (and multi-purpose) I'd go no shorter in the barrel than 3 inches, and adjustable sights are a plus in my book. S&W Model 60 with 3" barrel makes an excellent trail gun, with enough sight radius to get decent shooter performance. Yes, the snub-nose revolvers can be amazingly accurate at range, moreso than most give them credit for, but with rudimentary fixed sights and short sight radius this kind of accuracy is tough to achieve without a lot of practice (and frustration).

    4" or 6" are your easiest-to-find lengths, and 6" makes for a very accurate field/hunting/target number, but gets problematic to conceal effectively.

    If single action is your thing, then choices abound from most notably Ruger, then Uberti and scads of other imports in just about any flavor you'd like.
  • bullsi1911bullsi1911 Moderator Posts: 9,726 Senior Member
    Tugar wrote: »
    Go and try the CZ-75. You'll probably like the grip angle better. CZ's can be carried either DA or SA which makes them unique. Plus you can get the Cadet conversion to shoot 22lr in it.

    This^

    They make a compact version as well that might work better for CCW: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-75-compact/

    However, I carry my fullsize just fine, thankyouverymuch.
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  • RacrawfoRacrawfo New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    Thanks for the info guys. Much appreciated

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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,104 Senior Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Glock 19.

    Reasonably small for CCW

    Big enough to be accurate

    Powerful enough to be effective

    Light enough recoil to teach the wimmin & kids to shoot with.

    .22 conversion kits are available - http://www.advantagearms.com/

    Resistant to abuse / neglect.

    Holds a buttload of ammo

    Cheap to feed.

    Yep.
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  • glockman0422glockman0422 Member Posts: 216 Member
    Bigslug wrote: »
    Glock 19.

    Reasonably small for CCW

    Big enough to be accurate

    Powerful enough to be effective

    Light enough recoil to teach the wimmin & kids to shoot with.

    .22 conversion kits are available - http://www.advantagearms.com/

    Resistant to abuse / neglect.

    Holds a buttload of ammo

    Cheap to feed.

    This was exactly the first thing that came to mind.
  • shotgunshooter3shotgunshooter3 Senior Member Posts: 5,414 Senior Member
    Glock 19 was my go-to for about a year before I started carrying my 1911. If you don't like the grip angle, just practice practice, and after that go practice some more. You'll get used to it.

    Other options are Springfield XD, Smith and Wesson M&P, CZ75, various revolvers in .357 magnum, etc. However, again, dollar for dollar I feel a Glock 19 is your best choice.
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  • RacrawfoRacrawfo New Member Posts: 8 New Member
    What about the ruger SR9c?

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  • tv_racin_fantv_racin_fan Senior Member Posts: 617 Senior Member
    I'd have to say the better all around handgun for both CC and just plinkin would be a 357 mag revolver in about 4" version.
  • JeeperJeeper Senior Member Posts: 2,952 Senior Member
    Racrawfo wrote: »
    What about the ruger SR9c?

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    I've heard good things about those, but have no personal experience with them, but my vote is for the 9mm Glock 17 (fullsize) or 19 (compact) as well. Dollar for Dollar, you can't beat them for reliability, accuracy, durability, or cost. The factory backs up their products too.
    I'd have to say the better all around handgun for both CC and just plinkin would be a 357 mag revolver in about 4" version.

    Unless you reload, I'd have to disagree with this. At least around here, 38 ammo is noticeably more expensive than 9mm. If he gets a Glock 17, he has the option of getting one of the .22 conversion kits for practice later as well.

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  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    "Unless you reload,...... 38 ammo is noticeably more expensive than 9mm. "

    Answer: start re-loading, .357 / .38 special is easy to hand-load and dirt cheap too.
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  • alphasigmookiealphasigmookie Senior Member Posts: 8,741 Senior Member
    "Unless you reload,...... 38 ammo is noticeably more expensive than 9mm. "<br />
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    Answer: start re-loading, .357 / .38 special is easy to hand-load and dirt cheap too.

    While I generally agree with this, especially for avid shooters, but for a relatively new pistol shooter I'm not sure reloading should be an initial focus. As someone who has just loaded his first few boxes of pistol ammo, at first it may actually be a deterrent to shooting more! Right now I'm averaging 2 hrs per box which is less than minimumm wage not including equipment and components.

    At this point I'd suggest buying a 9mm and a case of cheap plinking ammo. My fist choices would be M&P, xd, or cz p-01.
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