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Legendary critters

I imagine that most areas of the world have, or have had, animals that wrought havoc, escaped killing or capture, and just basically became a local legend due to such feats. Colorado certainly has had some. I thought it might be fun to post various accounts of such animals.
One of the most legendary of animals in Colorado was a grizzly known as Old Mose. He was given credit for killing 4 or 5 people over a 20+ year period, and lord only knows how much livestock. His legend began in 1883 when he supposedly killed a miner, Jacob Ratliff, from Fairplay, who was hunting along Badger Creek. It ended on May 2, 1904 when Wharton Pigg killed him on Black Mountain, which is roughly 30-40 miles north/northwest of present day Canon City. He field dressed 775 lbs., which put him well over 1000 lbs. live weight.
He was recogizable by two missing toes on one of his feet. He had been trapped years before, and pulled loose from the trap. His escape, though, had cost him his toes.
Somehow or another his remains ended up in a storage room of a museum at UC Berkley. A researcher managed to get one of the bears teeth and aged it. Remarkably, the 20+ year old legend was only 12 years old, according to the tooth. No doubt there were several bears whose feats were attributed to Old Mose during that time. Regardless, he became a local legend. Even today, there's a tourist shop just outside of Canon City that uses the bear as part of its advertisement.
FWIW, the information I'm posting comes from a book titled "Old Mose" by James E. Perkins. It's an interesting read in case anyone wants to know more.
There's also the Plute bull, but I'll leave that for someone else, or maybe for a reply to this thread.
Would anyone else care to share similar stories. I'd like to read them.
One of the most legendary of animals in Colorado was a grizzly known as Old Mose. He was given credit for killing 4 or 5 people over a 20+ year period, and lord only knows how much livestock. His legend began in 1883 when he supposedly killed a miner, Jacob Ratliff, from Fairplay, who was hunting along Badger Creek. It ended on May 2, 1904 when Wharton Pigg killed him on Black Mountain, which is roughly 30-40 miles north/northwest of present day Canon City. He field dressed 775 lbs., which put him well over 1000 lbs. live weight.
He was recogizable by two missing toes on one of his feet. He had been trapped years before, and pulled loose from the trap. His escape, though, had cost him his toes.
Somehow or another his remains ended up in a storage room of a museum at UC Berkley. A researcher managed to get one of the bears teeth and aged it. Remarkably, the 20+ year old legend was only 12 years old, according to the tooth. No doubt there were several bears whose feats were attributed to Old Mose during that time. Regardless, he became a local legend. Even today, there's a tourist shop just outside of Canon City that uses the bear as part of its advertisement.
FWIW, the information I'm posting comes from a book titled "Old Mose" by James E. Perkins. It's an interesting read in case anyone wants to know more.
There's also the Plute bull, but I'll leave that for someone else, or maybe for a reply to this thread.
Would anyone else care to share similar stories. I'd like to read them.
Jerry
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According to the book I cited, that is correct.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
I saw the mounted head about 20 years ago. At that time, it was hanging in a small Conoco station in Crested Butte, Colorado. According to the two posted articles below, it is now hanging in the Crested Butte Chamber of Commerce Visitor's Center, or on tour.
I am posting two accounts I found on the internet, along with the web page where I found them.
I also found a web page that provides details of the top 20 all time B&C elk. If you're interested, check out the following.
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2011/08/world-record-elk-nontypical-world-record-elk-typical-record-elk-spide
From http://www.cbchamber.com/elk-story.html
Elk Story
The Former World Record Elk was killed here in 1899 by John Plute of Crested Butte
John Plute, a hunter and bachelor who lived and worked in Crested Butte, shot this huge bull elk in 1899 in the Dark Canyon of Anthracite Creek, 12 miles west of Crested Butte with a 30-40 Krag rifle.
He gave the horns to John Rozich who later gave them to his stepson Ed Rozman.
It was Ed and Tony Rozman who first made the effort in 1955 to bring recognition to the rack. A measurement form was filled out and sent to the Boone and Crocket Club in New York. In September 1960, with the help of the Hotchkiss Elks Lodge and Jesse Williams of the Montrose Game and Fish Department, an official measurement
was made and also sent to New York.
A letter from Boone and Crocket stated that the horns would have to be shipped to them to be measured by their own officials.
On March 19, 1961 they were certified in a new world record: score 442 3/8. Recently, a set of horns from Arizona apparently surpassed the Crested Butte elk by a mere .25 points.
Through the efforts of the American Sportsman’s Club, a cape was mounted to the Crested Butte antlers by official taxidermist Joe Jonas Jr. and displayed during the National Western Stock Show. Countless numbers of people have seen the head.
When not on loan and/or tour, the head is being displayed at the Chamber of Commerce Visitor’s Center in downtown Crested Butte. It is still one of the most impressive displays you will ever see.
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2011/08/world-record-elk-nontypical-world-record-elk-typical-record-elk-spide?photo=2#node-1001347727
#2 TYPICAL
Hunter: John Plute
Score: 442 3/8
Year: 1899
State: CO
When elk are killed a good century back, details of the hunt tend to get fuzzy. Nearly 20years ago, OL outdoor writer Jim Zumbo struck out to see and hear about what was then the world’s largest elk. Legend has it that John Plute, 31, was a miner around Crested Butte, Colorado — as most able-bodied men from the region were. He
lived in a boarding house, occasionally trading wild game meat for rent. He hunted every chance he got. One day in 1899, he went up to Dark Canyon, 12 miles west of Crested Butte and killed a fine bull, a mighty fine bull.
He didn’t typically haul out the racks as it was tough to pay rent with something that useless back in those days. He told others about the size of his elk, and to prove it, he eventually went back in to pack out the antlers.
Then in 1915, as legend has it, Plute gave the rack to a bar owner to pay his tab. The Rozman brothers inherited the saloon in question in 1948 along with the antlers. The rack was loaned out, stuck in storage, and returned. It was finally measured by an official scorer. In 1961, it was made official in New York City as the number one bull in the world. After touring about, the elk ended back in Crested Butte in 1971. It sat in a hardware store that’s just about as old as the rack. Now, when it’s not traveling the country as a display, it sits in Crested Butte’s Chamber of Commerce
downtown. And while everyone knows where that famous rack is, no one seems to have a clue about what happened to John Plute.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
IIRC that is also what downed the Plute bull
From the first posted article.
John Plute, a hunter and bachelor who lived and worked in Crested Butte, shot this huge bull elk in 1899 in the Dark Canyon of Anthracite Creek, 12 miles west of Crested Butte with a 30-40 Krag rifle.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
If we make this years elk hunt in 54, I think it would be worth it to make a short jaunt up the highway to Crested Butte to go pay homage to that fine rack.
I have been told the same thing about the cape being from a cow.
I totally agree that it would be time well spent to take another look at that mount.
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Anyway, I saw a full-body bobcat mount that was huge. I mean really, really big for a bobcat. But, it did look a little strange. The shape just wasn't quite right.
Talking to the owner yielded the following info about the mount. The bobcat was actually a road-kill from Utah, having been hit by a local truck driver sometime back in the '50s. He knew it was unusually big, so he took it to the Utah wildlife department. Turned out (and I have no idea where they would have searched, but apparently they did) it was the largest bobcat, captive or wild, ever recorded.
It was so large it was mounted on a juvenile cougar form. That's why it looked so strange. It would have been an amazing thing to see had it been properly mounted. Even so, it was pretty impressive as it was, even to my admittedly non-expert eye.
Mike
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Jerry
There was also a troop of Japanese snow monkeys that supposedly escaped from a primate rescue organization outside of San Antonio ( http://www.primarilyprimates.org/ ). There were supposed monkey sightings all over the area west of Boerne near I-10 for years after.
But nothing good like a monster bear or anything like that.
-Mikhail Kalashnikov
Aw heck, I've killed hundreds of jackalopes. They've all been does, though. The bucks are much harder to find.
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Let's not get carried away, Wambli. They guy was also a miner, a bachelor, lived in a boarding house, and walked every where he went. I think you have a bit of leeway there.
Getting back to the story, though, I am amazed at the actual hunting feat that John Plute pulled off to get this bull. First, he walked 12 miles, one way, over rough country. I've never been to Dark Canyon, but I have been on the road that runs west from Crested Butte and goes near Dark Canyon. That is some rough country.
That bull also had to be large, probably in the 1000-1200 lb. range on the hoof. Even if you bone the meat out, you're probably looking at 300-400 lbs. of meat to pack out. That's a lot to carry on your back, and would require at least 2 trips, probably more. The last trip just to bring out the horns couldn't have been easy, either.
I'd say Mr. Plute earned that bull more than I have ever earned any animal I've brought home.
Gun control laws make about as much sense as taking ex-lax to cure a cough.
Man, Jackalopes are all over south Texas. They get huge! LOL!!! You can see them in mueseams across the state, right next to the Armadillo drinking a Lonestar beer. That's gotta be one tough animal to drink that horse pee, LOL!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogzilla
There are a lot of huge hogs throughout the South. Around here you hear about 500-600 pounders being killed all the time. But I would reduce these by a hundred or so pounds. I know there have been several actual 500 pounders killed around the state but at that they really aren't that common. So Hogzilla was definitely exceptional, even though he didn't live up to the original claims.
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Ephraim
Son that's somebody with nothing to do with his time but keep me in trouble with mom.
The theory was that burial details for the workers who died while building the railroad just disposed of their bodies in the bush, and the lions developed a taste for human flesh. Both lions were old and sick, but they just about brought construction to a standstill for several months.
Jerry
Some of my favorite to read about were several of the leopards and tigers Jim Corbett dispatched around India.
When I was in grade school, we went to the Museum of Natural History, in Chicago. They had the Tsavo man-eaters on display. Them was a couple of big skanky looking cats.
I will fear no evil: For I carry a .308 and not a .270
Seems way back when, when moose could fly, they attempted to land in trees that wouldn't support their weight. That accounts for all the trees we see on camping trips with their tops broken off. Who knows? There may still be some of those critters flying around.
Another topic, a while back I went to the agriculture museum in Glasgow, Montana. A quansett hut type building that had some of the most impressive heads of game animals taken way back when.
There was also a display of Asssiniboine artifacts that have since (I think) been moved to their reservation nearby. There was an authentic elk skin tepee that belonged to a famous chief of that tribe.
Great stuff!
Jim
Sounds like the same story I read in Field and Stream years ago...only when they skinned that one,
he had over 100 bullet holes in his hide and a man's hand and wedding ring in his belly.