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The EPA has killed operating coal fired electirc generation,

tennmiketennmike Senior MemberUnder a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
and the new regulations will prevent any new coal plants from being built. So your electric rates will go up, assuming that there is any electric power to buy. Since it takes about 6-8 years best case for a new generating plant to go through licensing process to a generating plant, it's going to be a tight situation with the electric supply. Obama said he'd do it, but nobody was listening.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/29/electric-rates-will-soar-now-that-obamas-epa-has-crushed-coal-fired-power/

Four years ago, then-candidate Barack Obama explained his anti-coal energy policy in an editorial board meeting with the San Francisco Chronicle. Obama said: “Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad.” He went on to explain: “So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/03/29/electric-rates-will-soar-now-that-obamas-epa-has-crushed-coal-fired-power/#ixzz1qhtZAdNP


Plants closing, and others forced to close due to not being able to meet the ridiculously short timeframe to retrofit allowed by the EPA:

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

http://www.governing.com/news/local/AP-EPA-Rules-Force-Shut-Down-of-32-Coal-Fire-Plants.html
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  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Pensacola, FLPosts: 10,831 Senior Member
    You would think this would be front page news, but I haven't seen it anywhere...........
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    jbp-ohio wrote: »
    You would think this would be front page news, but I haven't seen it anywhere...........

    Don't understand why it hasn't been more in the news, either. It's been covered on the web in detail since last summer, and really heated up last month. Last couple of months is when the EPA started acting like a rabid wolverine threatening huge fines for noncompliance with unattainable timetables for retrofits for the plants that could afford them.

    I'm hoping that the asteroid passing between the Earth and the Moon in the morning takes 'a left turn at Albuquerque' and smacks the EPA dead center. :jester:
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  • BullgatorBullgator Member Central FloridaPosts: 393 Member
    I remember when he said that before the election. He promised to bankrupt the industry that provides 50% of our electrical power and the press (and public) let it slide on by. Amazing.
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    If ya don't mind I'm gonna CC&P your exact post to FB.
  • jbp-ohiojbp-ohio Senior Member Pensacola, FLPosts: 10,831 Senior Member
    They are building a new gas fired plant in Dresden Ohio. I had a job interview there in 2010. They were already 2 years beyond their completion date then. It still isn't operational now. They started construction in 2001!!!

    My basic take from the day I spent there. You work for a week, then wait for a month for it to be inspected. Get a truckload of pipe, send it back because it failed code...........
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson
  • FisheadgibFisheadgib Senior Member crusted in sandPosts: 5,797 Senior Member
    My electricity comes from coal fired plants in Alabama and I don't have any other choices. It's not like you can shop electric companies like cable or phone companies. When obama got elected he had made a comment about wanting to run coal fired plants out of business and he never considers the repercussions to the end uses.
    snake284 wrote: »
    For my point of view, cpj is a lot like me
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Quinian wrote: »
    If ya don't mind I'm gonna CC&P your exact post to FB.

    I don't mind. More people that get fired up about it, the better the chance that Congress can be forced to get involved.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    A lot of the plants being shut down are old, but they've been retrofitted over the years with scrubbers, electrostatic filters, and other technology to make them cleaner. The new regulations make it an economic disaster to attempt to put in newer technology to attempt to make them cleaner. Every coal plant out there is unique; they aren't cookie cutter Chevys and Fords. Takes a good deal of time to design, build, and install new equipment.
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  • tennmiketennmike Senior Member Under a logPosts: 27,457 Senior Member
    Sometimes, I think Congress is asleep at the wheel. This is one of them.
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  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Denver,Co.Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Don't understand why it hasn't been more in the news, either. It's been covered on the web in detail since last summer, and really heated up last month. Last couple of months is when the EPA started acting like a rabid wolverine threatening huge fines for noncompliance with unattainable timetables for retrofits for the plants that could afford them.

    I'm hoping that the asteroid passing between the Earth and the Moon in the morning takes 'a left turn at Albuquerque' and smacks the EPA dead center. :jester:

    I agree with tennmike I just don't want it to head toward Las Cruces,NM hahhahahhhahaha:silly::roll2:
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • robert38-55robert38-55 Senior Member Denver,Co.Posts: 3,621 Senior Member
    tennmike wrote: »
    Sometimes, I think Congress is asleep at the wheel. This is one of them.

    To all deceiving lying politicians and the Obama Administration, and the likes of Eric Holder:

    But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    "It is what it is":usa:
  • drwalker47drwalker47 Member Lone Oak, TXPosts: 192 Member
    No ones life, liberty or property is safe while Congress is in session.
    Celebrate life, moment by moment. I plan to enjoy what time I have left, and that means MORE GUNS!
  • ErnestoMMErnestoMM Banned MalawiPosts: 1 New Member
    responses very good! )
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