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Sheriff Deputy Accidentally shoots wife of fellow deputy....

robert38-55robert38-55 Senior MemberPosts: 3,621 Senior Member
Sad when an incident happens like this especially in a concealed weapons training class. Gives us gun owners a bad rap...so to speak.

http://jerry611.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/19/10452791-sheriff-deputy-accidentally-shoots-wife-of-fellow-deputy-in-concealed-weapon-class
"It is what it is":usa:

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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    How the hell is this an accident?
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • bobbyrlf3bobbyrlf3 Senior Member Posts: 2,543 Senior Member
    Negligence, pure and simple. According to the article, they were at the firing range, so I can understand why there was ammunition loaded into the gun, but the other two of the primary safe gun handling rules were broken. That's called negligence.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    How the hell is this an accident?

    Broke the first few cardinal safety rules, check to make sure gun is unloaded and don't point at anything you don't want to destroy, keep your (students) finger off the damn trigger until ready to fire.......... fer starters.

    Hey, hold my badge and watch this:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

    What a moron. Was he trying to impress the ladies with his knowledge? Sorry no excuses.
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    Here you go.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Mark and remember, I am sure this guy had no intention of shooting anyone, things like this can happen to anyone not ever vigilant, that gets sloppy and complacent, pride often precedes the inevitable catastrophic epic fail.
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    How the hell is this an accident?

    +ONE!!!
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,611 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    How the hell is this an accident?


    Heck Buford, the guy served in the military!! He's knowledgeble fer gosh sake! Of course it's an accident....:roll:

    'Accident' is when you're an officer and screw up. Negligence is when you're (in their words) a civilian. See the difference?
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  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    AMEN coolgunguy :jester:

    IT IS NEGLIGENCE - Failure to take proper care in doing something: Failure to use reasonable care, resulting in damage or injury to another.

    Synonyms:
    neglect - carelessness - inadvertence - inadvertency

    TRUTH OF THE MATTER: Should not have let it happen if he had used proper procedure, plain and simple NEGLIGENCE!!!!!!!

    No excuse for IT!!!! :roll::nono::down:
  • Virginia BoyVirginia Boy Member Posts: 213 Member
    In my area, on Sat. the 21st. at a firearm safety class, a man shot
    himself through the hand, which then struck his wife( who was sitting beside him),
    in her leg.
    They were both transported to the hospital, with non-life threatening injuries.
    The handgun was .45 caliber.
    When my wife & I took the safety course, our instructor had everyone place their
    guns on a table, and then checked them, and unloaded them, if they were loaded.
    They stayed on the table during the classroom sessions.
    A few years ago, an instructor at a Virginia college( I won't say which), was
    showing a lady a handgun ( .380 I think), when he shot her 14 year old son in the
    chest, killing him.
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  • JasonMPDJasonMPD Senior Member Posts: 6,557 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    'Accident' is when you're an officer and screw up. Negligence is when you're (in their words) a civilian. See the difference?

    Offensive to me as that statement is, I'll bite my tongue.

    Just because the media called it an "Accident" doesn't mean everyone will refer to it as one. Besides, an accident implies a consequence without intention to do so. So, it was an accident perpetuated by negligence. See the difference?

    Basic comprehension plays a huge role here. "Deputy Sheriff accidentally shoots...", reads correctly in context with the unfortunate outcome. If he was a murderer, it would have read, "Deputy Sheriff INTENTIONALLY shoots fellow Deputy's wife...".

    An accident by-way-of negligence.
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  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    addy40 wrote: »
    DON'T QUOTE SPAM!

    Jerk-off quit :spam::spam::spam::spam::spam::spam::spam::spam:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
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  • BullgatorBullgator Member Posts: 393 Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Offensive to me as that statement is, I'll bite my tongue.

    Just because the media called it an "Accident" doesn't mean everyone will refer to it as one. Besides, an accident implies a consequence without intention to do so. So, it was an accident perpetuated by negligence. See the difference?

    Basic comprehension plays a huge role here. "Deputy Sheriff accidentally shoots...", reads correctly in context with the unfortunate outcome. If he was a murderer, it would have read, "Deputy Sheriff INTENTIONALLY shoots fellow Deputy's wife...".

    An accident by-way-of negligence.

    Well said. I never did understand why "negligent discharge" replaced "accidental discharge". Back when it was an AD, we still managed to understand that the root cause was likely negligence.

    The one that drive me nuts is, "the gun went off" as if to imply the gun spontaneously discharged without operator action.
  • REDDEVILREDDEVIL Member Posts: 153 Member
    +1 JasonMPD



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  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    DoctorWho wrote: »
    Mark and remember, I am sure this guy had no intention of shooting anyone.
    They never do.
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    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • 1965Jeff1965Jeff Senior Member Posts: 1,644 Senior Member
    Mama always said stupid is as stupid does...
  • Big ChiefBig Chief Senior Member Posts: 32,995 Senior Member
    Originally Posted by addy40
    DON'T QUOTE SPAM!


    ":spam:" ":spam:" ":spam:"...................:jester:
    It's only true if it's on this forum where opinions are facts and facts are opinions
    Words of wisdom from Big Chief: Flush twice, it's a long way to the Mess Hall
    I'd rather have my sister work in a whorehouse than own another Taurus!
  • beartrackerbeartracker Senior Member Posts: 3,116 Senior Member
    1965Jeff wrote: »
    Mama always said stupid is as stupid does...

    Wasn't that Forest Gump's Mama that said that, your not related are you :jester::jester: Just having fun and yes stupid is as stupid does!!!
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,611 Senior Member
    JasonMPD wrote: »
    Offensive to me as that statement is, I'll bite my tongue.

    Just because the media called it an "Accident" doesn't mean everyone will refer to it as one. Besides, an accident implies a consequence without intention to do so. So, it was an accident perpetuated by negligence. See the difference?

    Basic comprehension plays a huge role here. "Deputy Sheriff accidentally shoots...", reads correctly in context with the unfortunate outcome. If he was a murderer, it would have read, "Deputy Sheriff INTENTIONALLY shoots fellow Deputy's wife...".

    An accident by-way-of negligence.


    I meant no offence, but I understand if it came across as though I did. Like other citizens, there are good and bad in every bunch. Almost always much more good than bad, but even many of the good (around here) seem to have the idea that having a badge somehow puts one 'above'...
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
  • BufordBuford Senior Member Posts: 6,713 Senior Member
    If this was a average Joe he would be hammered for being irresponsible and reckless. Seeing as to how it's a Sheriff deputy in this case, it could have happened to anyone.
    Just look at the flowers Lizzie, just look at the flowers.
  • DoctorWhoDoctorWho Senior Member Posts: 9,496 Senior Member
    Buford wrote: »
    If this was a average Joe he would be hammered for being irresponsible and reckless. Seeing as to how it's a Sheriff deputy in this case, it could have happened to anyone.

    Sometimes Justice & Punishment or leniency / clemency is not applied equally across the board, lots of stuff is resolved in house and with a few days suspension..... I once got to suspend a Chief, two days disciplinary suspension, his regular days off, it was rather funny at the time, we both thought so anyway.

    Edited to add, It was misuse of an official vehicle......
    "There is some evil in all of us, Doctor, even you, the Valeyard is an amalgamation of the darker sides of your nature, somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation, and I may say, you do not improve with age. Founding member of the G&A forum since 1996
  • 1965Jeff1965Jeff Senior Member Posts: 1,644 Senior Member
    I'm sure there's a Gump in the wood pile somewhere.
  • QuinianQuinian Senior Member Posts: 707 Senior Member
    bobbyrlf3 wrote: »
    Negligence, pure and simple. According to the article, they were at the firing range, so I can understand why there was ammunition loaded into the gun, but the other two of the primary safe gun handling rules were broken. That's called negligence.

    :that:
  • coolgunguycoolgunguy Senior Member Posts: 6,611 Senior Member
    coolgunguy wrote: »
    I meant no offence, but I understand if it came across as though I did. Like other citizens, there are good and bad in every bunch. Almost always much more good than bad, but even many of the good (around here) seem to have the idea that having a badge somehow puts one 'above'...



    Buford's post also shows this. If this were John Q., we'd at least be hearing of the possibilty of charges, if not worse. The folks interviewed in the article almost seem as though they're saying 'nothing to see...move along'. That's what I was trying to convey. I understand that I'm swinging a wide, tarry brush...but I often feel as though a similar brush has been applied to us 'civilians'...
    "Bipartisan" usually means that a bigger than normal deception is happening.
    George Carlin
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